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Old 05-15-2012, 08:09 PM   #1
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Battery drained and not recharging?

I have just purchased a 2000 Shamrock by Forest River, with brand new battery...the LP gas detector started sounding after a few days and now the battery is flat.

What would cause it to drain so quickly?

Why does it not recharge when connected to the mains (shoreline)? Does it have a convertor, can't see it on the a-frame?

Very new to this world and keen to get exploring but have not power...any help for this newbie from South Africa is welcome
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Old 05-15-2012, 08:11 PM   #2
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yes you should have a convertor !
if its not working your battery will drain in a few days from parasitic loads .
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What is a few days? Was the battery properly charged? When plugged into shore power what is the voltage on the battery? To be charging, it should be around 13V.
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Old 05-15-2012, 08:23 PM   #4
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Welcome to FRF. Congrats on your new to you trailer. What model do you have?

Maybe we can help.

Parasitic drains on the trailer that are on all the time are the cause, I bet. These include Lp Detector, radio, etc. Depending on the size battery, this can happen in a week or two. A small group 24 will not last long. The cheap solution is to disconnect the neg cable. Or, install a battery disconnect.

The converter maybe under the fridge but not sure with a 2000. You'll find it where the fuses and breakers are located.

Are you getting any power at all to the AC (120 volt) appliances like air conditioning or to the receptacles?
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Old 05-15-2012, 08:27 PM   #5
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Tks for the quick responses...

Do you know where the convertor is? Should I disconnect the battery when not in use?

A few days could be more like 3 weeks thinking about it more. Just plugged it in and the volts are 2.54 (probably cause I hooked up yesterday to see if the car would charge it...prior to that it was 0.52 volts.
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Model - 2000 19ft Shamrock pop out
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Old 05-15-2012, 08:34 PM   #7
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Just plugged it in and the volts are 2.54 (probably cause I hooked up yesterday to see if the car would charge it...prior to that it was 0.52 volts.
Can you tell us how you are measuring these and what size battery you have?


Check below the fridge for your converter. I posted earlier but my Internet went Kablooie with this storm we are getting tonight.
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You are looking for something like what is on the cover of this manual.
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Old 05-15-2012, 08:52 PM   #9
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Aircon and Microwave are working when plugged in. Can't find a fuse board anywhere, nothing under the fridge either. Closest thing is the white box that tell me about the tanks and battery...
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Try this. Go under the trailer and follow the wire from the positive terminal of your battery to its end point. That will be the area where you will find your converter. The problem is that there aren't too many 2000 Shamrocks on the forum so I don't know in your model.
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On your battery, I used to pull a fuse on my PUP that was located at the battery to keep from draining the battery. I didn't disconnect the ground, just pulled the fuse. Now on my TT, I disconnect the Neg. Terminal when not in use. The battery that came with mine would not charge properly. I checked the water levels and they were low, filled, recharged, hooked up to TT, looked and seen fumes so I disconnected. I removed the battery, took it to Advance Auto, it was gone. New battery, no more problems. My PUP had the converter and fuse panel under the table.
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:16 PM   #12
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The power center could be under one of the bench seats.
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I too just pull the main fuse right near the pos battery terminal rather than bother with disconnecting cables from terminals. Does the exact same thing.
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:59 PM   #14
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Ok I have located the fuse board & convertor...FYI - it is the rather large brown box under the oven, which I thought related to the oven. Found this after setting up the whole trailer!

All fuses fine and it is a 45AMP convertor...

Battery still not charging, volts are now at 1.7v.

My hook up is using a normal extension cord with a RV plug adapter - is that right?

When looking under the trailer I noticed the +ve wire from the battery connected to a little black box then a new wire connected to the Aux side of this black box feeding to the fuse board.

Any other checks/thoughts?
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Ok I have located the fuse board & convertor...FYI - it is the rather large brown box under the oven, which I thought related to the oven. Found this after setting up the whole trailer!

All fuses fine and it is a 45AMP convertor...

Battery still not charging, volts are now at 1.7v.

My hook up is using a normal extension cord with a RV plug adapter - is that right?

When looking under the trailer I noticed the +ve wire from the battery connected to a little black box then a new wire connected to the Aux side of this black box feeding to the fuse board.

Any other checks/thoughts?
If the little black box looks like one of these it is a fuse for connecting the battery to the converter.

The little tab on the side is a reset button. Press it in and it should click in. If it pops back out DO NOT reset it again till we figure out what is going on.
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It is like the second picture, but there is no button on the side to reset - could it be an older model?
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:48 PM   #17
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No but it could be bad or have a corroded connection.
Remove the wires and lightly sand the terminals and wire brush the threads of the current limiter.

Be sure there is no bump on the sides to press. It may be an auto reset type.

Hook up the side going from the converter to the fuse. DO NOT hook up the battery yet.

See if you have 13 volts or higher at the terminal.
If you don't you have a converter problem.

See if you have 13 volts on the other terminal without the battery wire on it. If not you have a bad fuse.

If you have 13 volts on the battery side; hook up the battery wire.

Check the voltage on that terminal again. If the voltage drops to a lot less than 13 volts then you have a bad battery.

Even though "new" a dead battery WILL freeze; cracking the lead wafer plates that make up the cells.
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:51 PM   #18
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kooky, you have a Shamrock hybrid, Model 19.

test the wires that hook to the battery to see how much is coming from the converter, to the battery.
for that old of a hybrid, the converter could be bad.

2000 was only the second year of production for the hybrid design, for FR.
R-Vision came out with the first ones, in 1998 model year.
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My new Sabre was doing the same thing. The 45 AMP WFCO converter was bad. Having a 70 AMP Progressive Dynamics installed. Seems that many have had problems with the 45 WFCO's.
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My new Sabre was doing the same thing. The 45 AMP WFCO converter was bad. Having a 70 AMP Progressive Dynamics installed. Seems that many have had problems with the 45 WFCO's.
X2 on wfco junk
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