Originally Posted by Martingale
Of course our dream trailer would be the 23IKSS with a U-shaped dinette and the tub style of bathroom/shower offered on a couple of the 21' models.
I've thought the same thing - U dinette would be nice, and about the only thing the 23IKSS lacks to be perfect is a bigger shower.
Hopefully you get a chance to look at the IKSS and 23SS side by side to choose. My own opinion - we don't ever turtle. Even for a quick overnight, we always find a campground close to the highway. It gives the kids a chance to swim or play for a little while we have a cocktail and cook dinner. With a pull through site the front bunk will clear the tailgate of my truck, so we don't unhook which makes for a quick stop. And if its too cold to put the tents down, it too cold to camp IMO. We've added PUGS and relfectix to be comfortable down to 30 degrees or so. But we have found anything much below that has issues even turtling won't help - mainly condensation on the windows and potential for frozen plumbing.
Some people do use campers in really cold temps for hunting season or whatever, but it takes a lot of prep work. And, you can get double pane windows on the Roo now, which would be a nice feature, but it is fairly pricey.
If you do want to turtle with the IKSS absolutely get the air bed sofa.
The IKSS isn't suitable for turtling without putting the slides out. If you do, its workable, but maybe not the ideal setup. If that is only a rare occasion, the features it has when fully setup might outweigh that drawback.
Good luck on your shopping trip!