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Old 01-06-2013, 10:03 PM   #1
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Camping in cold weather advice needed

Hello,

I own a 2005 Roo 232 (2 tent ends and a sliding couch). I plan to go to the pacific northwest in January/Feb for a few weeks. I've never taken it into cold weather and have no idea what I'd need to do to prepare for 25 degree nights. (I'll be staying on the coast and saw day temps to be around 46 and night around 28)

What I've done so far:
* Installed a vent cover so I can keep it open in the rain
* Added reflectix to the tent windows
* Added Pop Up Gizmos to the tent ends

I don't know what I should be considering. I have 3 small children and a wife who does not like the cold. I was reading the forums and saw suggestions for...

* Heat Tape for the water line, and insulation to go around the line.
* Adding an electric 1500w heater for nights that we have hook-ups
* Adding reflectix under the matresses

What should I be doing?
* Should I add insulation around the grey/black tanks?
* Should I add a cermaic heater and gas so I can keep it warmer?
* Should I get a dehumidifer so it doesn't get wet inside while it is so cold outside?

My wife likes our house at 72 degrees, so this should be interesting. Thanks in advance!
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:26 PM   #2
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Does the 2005 Roo have an enclosed underbelly or did it come with tank heaters? If some of the camping will be without hookups, what do you have for battery(s) or generator. Running the furnace and fan will deplete the battery charge probably overnight particularly with the amount it will need to run with the tent ends on the camper. Humidity will definitely be an issue.

Do you have a prenuptial agreement?

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Old 01-06-2013, 10:37 PM   #3
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Hello,

I own a 2005 Roo 232 (2 tent ends and a sliding couch). I plan to go to the pacific northwest in January/Feb for a few weeks. I've never taken it into cold weather and have no idea what I'd need to do to prepare for 25 degree nights. (I'll be staying on the coast and saw day temps to be around 46 and night around 28)

What I've done so far:
* Installed a vent cover so I can keep it open in the rain
* Added reflectix to the tent windows
* Added Pop Up Gizmos to the tent ends

I don't know what I should be considering. I have 3 small children and a wife who does not like the cold. I was reading the forums and saw suggestions for...

* Heat Tape for the water line, and insulation to go around the line.
* Adding an electric 1500w heater for nights that we have hook-ups
* Adding reflectix under the matresses

What should I be doing?
* Should I add insulation around the grey/black tanks?
* Should I add a cermaic heater and gas so I can keep it warmer?
* Should I get a dehumidifer so it doesn't get wet inside while it is so cold outside?

My wife likes our house at 72 degrees, so this should be interesting. Thanks in advance!
How bout "get a room" Not only dh will hate you da kids will also. Pacific gas will love you though!
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:26 PM   #4
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I own a Yamaha 2400ishc. I think I should be able to keep the battery charged but I don't know if I should switch out the default marine battery with 2 deep cycle batteries to have it all last longer.

I don't know how to tell if my underbelly is enclosed. I can clearly see the exposed tanks, and there is no tank heater. Should I put some RV antifreeze in the tanks? Or should I tape a bunch of heat tape to them?

I'm up for modifying the camper to make this enjoyable, I simply don't know where to start.
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:33 PM   #5
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My husband left for his annual road trip to Az last week in oir truck camper. He hit unexpected temps of negative 12 degrees in Buell ID and smartly took a hotel room. When he arrived in Vegas, he again got a room as the temps were unbearbly cold in the camper. Now he is in AZ where the temps are better but cold enough to have frozen his neighbors 5th wheel water lines...he's using propane & runs the Buddy Heater which keeps him snug. I am not sad that I wasnt on this trip...my tolerance for cold weather camping is 30 degrees...anything colder and I want a hotel room...nothing less enjoyable than waking up to potty the dogs in freezing weather - I can do that at home. LOL

Your predicted daytime temps are nice - thats an enjoyable temp, brisk and fresh! At nite, 28 will be cozy under bedding and the warmth of your furnace...

If your wife doesnt like to be cold, then postpone your trip or ensure she and the kids pack warm clothes to layer themselves and throw in some warm sleeping bags and sofa throws for lounging inside...lots of movies, games and books because they may not want to go outside if they are not used to the cold...also dont forget the chapstick, beanies and gloves. I live in eastern WA where we are in the low 20's now...warm compared to the single digits we had last week. Cold is cold at that point and miserable to step outside esp if there is snow to have to shovel...haha

Here is DH's set up this year...he opted to take the camper/trailer combo and the A-frame stayed home...I think I might fly down for a weekend to enjoy the sights with him...but last week I was stuck in airport for 6 hrs due to weather and mechanical probs related to the cold.

Please let us know how your trip goes! As long as you psyche up to be cold and prepare for it, I'll bet it wont be as "bad" as you imagine...
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:56 PM   #6
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If you are keeping the interior warm and have prepared your freshwater, I think you should be OK. We have camped in below freezing temps without problem. Just do not keep the city water hooked up at night. Our service depertment told me that freezing for less thean 24 hours rarely causes damage. Remeber that freesing does not break lines, thawing (expansion of the ice when it has no where to go) causes the damage.

That said, I don't see where you will need to do much with your waste tanks either.

The weather here can be cool and wet. If you are all cramped up inside, you may have condesation issues. The heat with a fan will help but allow some outside ventalation.

The other thing you don't mention is wind. With a tent camper, that would be a cocern. It can blow pretty hard in some places this time of year. I don't have any recommendations on this other than try to camp in a protected area and stay away from trees that might come down.

Have fun

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I wouldn't do it in a popup.
You will not survive well at night no matter what you set the heater at.
That heater will be working 24/7 and they sure suck up that propane in cold weather.

Get a room because you will be more comfortable or wait for summer to go.
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I have camped in the cold temps w/ just my son, the wife was not w/ us (thank God).
As miserable as it was, at least I didn't have her yelling at me all night and the next day. Sleeping in full clothes and a winter hat, still being cold, stinks! good luck!
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Remeber that freesing does not break lines, thawing (expansion of the ice when it has no where to go) causes the damage.
This person is INCORRECT.

It is the freezing that breaks the lines. When water freezes, it EXPANDS (this is why ice floats). The expanding ice is what breaks the lines. I'm an engineer at a nuclear power plant. When we need to isolate a pipe and there's no handy isolation valve, we purposely create an ice plug using liquid nitrogen in a jacket that wraps around the metal pipe. The expansion of the ice creates a plug 6-12 inches long. The expansion of the ice plug presses against the pipe wall, holding the plug in place and blocking water flow through the pipe so we can open up the end of the pipe and work on it. When we're done, we wait for the plug to thaw (it now CONTRACTS), and we're back in business. What may be causing the confusion is that with unintential freezing situations, the LEAK usually occurs when the ice thaws and now's there's liquid water available to come of of the hole that the ICE created.
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Lay person answer.

rockfordroo is correct that water freezing in RV plastic pipes expand them to a point until they fracture. When it warms up and thaws you find all the leaks.


And I'm not a nuclear engineer.
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