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03-26-2013, 09:22 PM
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Carbon monoxide detector
I just picked up a 2013 21 SS. I can't find a CO detector in it, am I missing something? Thanks for te help
Mike
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03-26-2013, 09:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikemiller69gs
I just picked up a 2013 21 SS. I can't find a CO detector in it, am I missing something? Thanks for te help
Mike
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It'll be real close to the floor sometimes next to or under the converter.
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03-26-2013, 10:14 PM
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I've got a smoke detector (ceiling) and a propane detector (near floor) in my TT. No CO detector....
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03-26-2013, 10:38 PM
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I believe I have the same scenario. I think I will grab a CO detector at Lowes
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03-26-2013, 10:58 PM
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I thought they used a combination propane/co detector.
Am I mistaken?
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03-27-2013, 05:14 AM
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I added a CO detector just this past weekend after the fire inspector suggested it. We have to get it inspected here in KY before I could transfer the title. Cheap and can't hurt to have it so I did it. Didn't even think that the LP one might be doing both. If it is then I'm just double covered.
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03-27-2013, 05:41 AM
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CO (carbon monoxide) is slightly lighter than air and should be placed near the ceiling, preferably in the bedroom. Propane is heavier than air and should be placed near the floor. Smoke detectors should be placed on the ceiling. You might have a combination smoke/CO detector so check the manuals that came with your trailer. In my Silverback I have separate units, CO detector in the bedroom, smoke detector in the hallway, propane detector in the kitchen area near the floor.
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03-27-2013, 06:24 AM
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My 2010 model has it right above the bed, as Oakman suggested. All three of my detectors are separate.
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03-27-2013, 08:28 AM
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We have the smoke detector in the living area, the propane detector near the floor and the CO detector on the ceiling in the bedroom. They where all installed from the factory. I first thought that the CO detector was a second smoke detector.
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03-27-2013, 09:16 AM
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Curiosity got the better of me, so I went out and checked.
We have a combination propane/carbon monoxide detector like I thought, and it is mounted near the floor across from the furnace.
As a faulty furnace is the most likely cause of carbon monoxide, the detector probably doesn't have to be mounted on the ceiling, as the turbulence from the furnace fan would distribute the gas fairly evenly throughout the camper, floor and all.
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03-27-2013, 09:40 AM
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That where mine is ... on the floor.
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03-27-2013, 10:14 AM
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I have the gas/carbon monoxide combo detector in my 23ss Roo, installed under the u shaped dining table.
Safe T Alert brand.
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03-27-2013, 10:27 AM
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Wow! Lots of varied responses here...
Here's an exerpt from of the Fire Service Training Websites that i routinely use, which talks about CO detector placement:
"Unlike smoke, which rises to the ceiling, CO mixes with air. Recognizing this, a CO detector should be located at knee-height (which is about the same as prone sleeping height). Due to the possibility of tampering or damage by pets, children, vacuum cleaners and the like, it may be located up to chest height. To work properly, a detector should not be blocked by furniture, draperies or other obstructions to normal air flow. If a combination smoke/carbon monoxide detector is used, it should be located on the ceiling, to ensure that it will detect smoke effectively. Please refer to the manufacturer's instructions for additional information regarding proper use and maintenance."
CO is most likely going to do the most harm to an individual while he or she is sleeping. This is why detectors should be placed at sleeping level. They typical 18" off the floor that outlets are mounted may be a bit low, compared to bed height, but ceiling installation is only advised when the detector is a combination CO/smoke.
Personally, I would not recommend a combination unit, as the sensors have two ery different life-span dependability, with smoke detectors lasting much longer than CO sensors, but that's just my adice, and not the mfgr's advice.....
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03-27-2013, 10:36 AM
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My combo gas/carbon monoxide unit is approximately 1 foot off the ground, but I also have a smoke detector installed in the ceiling.
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03-27-2013, 12:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStick
I have the gas/carbon monoxide combo detector in my 23ss Roo, installed under the u shaped dining table.
Safe T Alert brand.
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Ditto. It's the same on the 2013 Roo 23SS. I'm considering getting an extra co detector just to be safe.
Great info everybody!
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03-27-2013, 01:09 PM
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Site Team
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My 08 came with an AA battery model on the ceiling.
Last fall it started to chirp every so often.
I figured batteries and so I changed them and walked away.
Few days later I'm outside the house and hear the chirp again?
WTF I think, those were new batteries. I test them and they are good.
Called the company and they said it was the "end of life" warning.
Tossed it and found another AA battery model at Wally World for less
than $20.
If you need one they aren't very expensive and a good thing to have in
any living space with gas appliances.
First Alert Battery-Powered Carbon Monoxide Detector, CO400 - Walmart.com
Here's an even better buy if you by chance need a smoke det for anywhere you can get both for $24
First Alert SCO403 Alarm Combination Pack - Walmart.com
I'm surprised they are shipping RVs without a CO detector
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03-27-2013, 01:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Instructor
Wow! Lots of varied responses here...
Here's an exerpt from of the Fire Service Training Websites that i routinely use, which talks about CO detector placement:
"Unlike smoke, which rises to the ceiling, CO mixes with air. Recognizing this, a CO detector should be located at knee-height (which is about the same as prone sleeping height). Due to the possibility of tampering or damage by pets, children, vacuum cleaners and the like, it may be located up to chest height. To work properly, a detector should not be blocked by furniture, draperies or other obstructions to normal air flow. If a combination smoke/carbon monoxide detector is used, it should be located on the ceiling, to ensure that it will detect smoke effectively. Please refer to the manufacturer's instructions for additional information regarding proper use and maintenance."
CO is most likely going to do the most harm to an individual while he or she is sleeping. This is why detectors should be placed at sleeping level. They typical 18" off the floor that outlets are mounted may be a bit low, compared to bed height, but ceiling installation is only advised when the detector is a combination CO/smoke.
Personally, I would not recommend a combination unit, as the sensors have two ery different life-span dependability, with smoke detectors lasting much longer than CO sensors, but that's just my adice, and not the mfgr's advice.....
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Good to know. The one I installed in my 21SS I put next to the hanging storage and put it high enough that I could screw into the bottom wood shelf. It's close to knee height so I should be good. I was thinking I messed up when I read another post.
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03-27-2013, 01:27 PM
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That's what I got and bought mine from Lowes for $17 something.
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03-28-2013, 07:29 AM
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I found mine when I opened the slide last night. It has a combo propane / CO detecter. it is near the floor, on the outside of the bathroom wall near the rear bunk.
Mike
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03-28-2013, 08:40 AM
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Have the combo unit on our new Flagstaff 21FB. One thing to keep in mind, the CO2 detector runs off the RV battery. If you hit the battery disconnect switch the detector is no longer opporating.
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