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Old 04-20-2016, 03:30 PM   #1
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Considering an upgrade--tow ??s

We drive a 2005 Toyota Sienna and currently camp with a pop-up. We are considering an upgrade to a Roo and wondering if we can get by w/o getting a different tow vehicle. The Sienna has a GVW of 3500. Can we tow a Roo 183 & gear w/o hurting our vehicle? Thanks for your help.
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Old 04-20-2016, 03:42 PM   #2
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I would say you would be pushing it. The 183 will weigh around 4000 by the time you put a battery and propane then you add your stuff to that and you will be 1000 - 1500 lbs over you maximum limit. I towed a vibe 6501 with my minivan and it did ok. But the vibe loaded was around 3300 lbs and it is only 7 feet wide so the frontal area is less ie less wind resistance. I have seen people towing larger trailers with minivans but I would look for a lighter trailer or bigger TV.
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Not only will you be 1500 lbs over on tow capability, you will be way over on the Sienna's cargo capability. Please don't do it. Recommend late model Durango, Tahoe, Suburban, or of course a half ton pick up.
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Old 04-20-2016, 05:43 PM   #4
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Just flipping through some older posts and saw...full size van. It would be another good choice for you. Believe me, pulling a Roo is nothing like pulling a pop up. We moved to a Shamrock 23ikss from a pop up. Got a Ram 1500 hemi to pull it. Granted, it's 1000 lbs more than a 183, but I wanted a safety cushion. No towing on the edge.
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Pulled my Roo 19 (~4000 lbs loaded) for one season with a Chevy Traverse (5200 lb tow capacity). Even though it was "within capacity" I was NOT happy. Bought a Silverado, 7500 lb capacity.

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Thanks for the input. Looks like we need to pursue a different tow vehicle before shopping for an upgraded camper. Thanks
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DON'T DO IT!

Do you know that your Sienna's MAX towing capacity is only 3500lbs.
And every fictional "dry' weight spec of the 183, way exceeds the Sienna ' s specs.

And that's before you add the weights of options, battery, water and cargo.

Only the absolute smallest of hybrids would be possible.

If you want a 3 bunk style hybrid, you need to leave the minivan world and look at a SUV.
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Old 04-20-2016, 06:30 PM   #8
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I moved up from a Popup too, YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT!!!
Loved my popup but being able to use the camper without putting it up, so worth it.

I towed a 2800lb dry 4000lb loaded Hybrid camper with a S15 Jimmy rated at 5000lb tow rating. Way under power, not able to relax while towing.
Bought a half ton dodge rated for 8000lb, I did not know how bad the other setup was until I had something better.
I have a 3/4 ton now rated for 12,000lb and pulled the same trailer for several seasons, even better barely know it is back there...

Simply put...
There is no such thing as too much tow vehicle...
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You will be over your limits. I pull a Roo 183 with a new Explorer Sport (rated 5000 pounds towing, 500 pound hitch weight), and I'm just within limits.

Fully loaded (gear, full propane, dual batteries, passengers), I'm within 100 pounds of max GCVW, and rear axle GAWR. I confirmed this last weekend after a visit to the local CAT scales.
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As much as I agree with everyone here. The sienna actually has more payload than my 1500. Weird right?


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