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Old 10-07-2013, 02:34 PM   #11
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LOL! I have to hijack this and ask, How did the bulldozer end up off the front of the flatbed?????
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Old 10-07-2013, 03:33 PM   #12
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First off, the roo is a light weight frame yes, but I feel that this could still be done safely. If you assume the 10% tongue weight rule is true here, the boat and trailer would have 200 LBS or less. (I would guess less being a drift boat but we will stick with that for this scenario.

Many people are quick to judge on things they haven't done or appear to intimidate them. Double towing definitely isn't for everyone but doesn't mean with some experience and appropriate setup this can and is being done safely!

Here is a link to state laws for towing. I was actually referred to it by the NE state patrol when I was questioning this!
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I would suggest doing much research on this, and make sure that you have an appropriate hitch installed.

The comment of installing a second weight distribution hitch on the rear trailer is an awful idea as that will be putting un needed stress into the frame of the camper. I would however suggest a sway control system IE friction sway bars on the rear trailer to help keep it from wagging.

I tow 36' bumper pull and a single spot jet ski behind. I have pulled this on trips over 250 miles one way with minimal issues. Only issue being in 30+ mph winds I felt a little too much sway for my comfort, which I'm sure I would've felt whether there was a jet ski tagging or not, and needed to slow down to 55MPH. For the most part my trailer will actually pull nicer with the jet ski on the back.

Only couple of tips I suggest if you do tow doubles, is to remember if you begin to sway either reach down and grab you brake controller and manually apply the brakes to the camper. This will force the truck and camper into a line which will then calm the rear trailer down as well. The other is the obvious issue of backing up, but I suggest trying to plan your stops accordingly so you DONT have to back up. I do this whether I have 1 trailer or 2 regardless, just smart traveling...

Otherwise I say take things cautiously, and make sure YOU check into the legalities and what will make this safe and or doable for you and your family. Seeing you plan to tow with a diesel the TV should stay in control unless something catastrophic happens...


Here is a shot of my rig, I weighed it, I weighed it again and then I weighed it again to verify I wasn't over loaded or under loaded where I need. I have done this with 2 campers and No issues with wear and tear or damage to the frame...
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:12 PM   #13
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The WDH on the second trailer idea came from a guy who has towed a heavy triple for a long time. He said it was the last piece of the four-year puzzle to make his rig stable. He had a professional engineer design the reinforcements to his fiver, and used dual brake controllers. Here is his rig.



Since your boat's weight will be a significant proportion of your HTTs weight, the boat's tongue weight may affect the behavior of your HTT by unloading the tongue.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:16 PM   #14
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That's pretty interesting actually! Thanks for sharing that!
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While you are thinking about this, remember one thing...

What you CAN do, and what you SHOULD do are very separate things. Can you put a hitch on your Roo? Sure. Should you? Probably not.

You may tow like that for a while with no issues, but the 'margin for error' will be so small that something as minor as a blown trailer tire could become something as serious as 3 trashed vehicles and God forbid a loss of life.

As an example of this, I submit for your approval a picture of my friend Paul, who decided his F150 CAN tow a bulldozer, instead of asking if it SHOULD. (for the record, it towed it just fine, all the way up to the point it didn't tow it fine)

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That looks on the order of a D-4 at or about 5 tons plus the weight of the trailer.

Any 1/2 ton can pull that........
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:24 PM   #16
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...As an example of this, I submit for your approval a picture of my friend Paul, who decided his F150 CAN tow a bulldozer, instead of asking if it SHOULD. (for the record, it towed it just fine, all the way up to the point it didn't tow it fine)

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Looks like he might have made it had he chained the dozer down properly. Not the trucks fault, operator error for not securing the load.
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:49 PM   #17
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LOL! I have to hijack this and ask, How did the bulldozer end up off the front of the flatbed?????
He was short at least one 1/2 inch nylon rope to secure that puppy when he hit the brakes. he should have had more brews before heading out.
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How about one of these instead. Porta Bote | The Unique Folding Boat
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Looks like he might have made it had he chained the dozer down properly. Not the trucks fault, operator error for not securing the load.
Technically correct. The dozer developed a bad rod knock way the hell out on the far end of his property. Paul didn't want to drive it back to his garage under its own power. He figured that it would be fine with just the parking brake set and the bucket down, just across some gravel farm roads on his property at low speeds. The parking brake didn't hold, and he though he swears he didnt, I am convinced he had the bucket in 'float' (if it was down and not in float, the bucket could not be sitting on the trailer with the ass end down so far).

He stopped and... well... the dozer didn't. So yes, it was not a problem with the truck, but still, just cause you can don't mean you should. Had he gone faster than 15 MPH, I am sure the truck would not have enough ass to keep it out of the ditches. If the tail wagged the dog, it would have ended FAR worse.

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I was told putting bikes on the back of a Roo was a bad idea due to lack of welds and it would void the warranty, so I'm guessing putting a boat back there would be a bad idea as well.
We just picked up our Shamrock 23IKSS on Oct. 04. Among the MANY stickers they love to put on a new camper, there was one on the bumper that basically said that if you attach ANYTHING to the bumper or frame, NO WARRANTY FOR YOU!! This was disappointing as I wanted to use our existing bike rack.
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