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Old 07-17-2016, 10:36 PM   #21
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I bet that's new for 2017.
Is it a Suburban or Atwood WH?
I knew Atwoods had an inside electric switch but Suburban didn't unless they've made some changes.
Dan, Suburban for years have had basically two combination propane/electric models of water heaters used in Forest River products. The SWDE model only has a electric switch on the outside to turn the element on/off.

The SWDEL model is very similar to the Atwood, and although it does still have the outside switch like the SWDE model, it also has an inside 12 volt switch that controls a relay to send power thru to the outside switch. With this model, you just leave the outside switch on, then use the inside switch to control the relay thus turning on/off the electric heating element.

It can get kinda confusing here in offering advice, without knowing exactly what brand and/or model the member has. Forest River uses the Atwood brand, as well as the Suburban brand, with the SWDE model and SWDEL model. We are actually seeing many more FR products coming out with the SWDEL model, as customers are wanting the inside switch.

Both Suburban models (SWDE and SWDEL) are explained in this link:

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Old 07-17-2016, 11:21 PM   #22
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Dan, Suburban for years have had basically two models of water heaters used in Forest River products. The SWDE model only has a electric switch on the outside to turn the element on/off.

The SWDEL model is very similar to the Atwood, and although it does still have the outside switch like the SWDE model, it also has an inside 12 volt switch that controls a relay to send power thru to the outside switch. With this model, you just leave the outside switch on, then use the inside switch to control the relay thus turning on/off the electric heating element.

It can get kinda confusing here in offering advice, without knowing exactly what brand and/or model the member has. Forest River uses the Atwood brand, as well as the Suburban brand, with the SWDE model and SWDEL model. We are actually seeing many more FR products coming out with the SWDEL model, as customers are wanting the inside switch.

Both Suburban models (SWDE and SWDEL) are explained in this link:

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Well, they've never had the SWDEL in the Roo/Shamrock hybrids until apparently the 2017 models.
Haven't ever heard of any previous model years having them.
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The biggest electrical problem I've had with our 183 is the outside outlet. We can't have a griddle plugged in there without popping the 15A breaker inside. Had it at the dealer while it was still under warranty and they claim it was fine. It's also on the same circuit as the outlet beside the stove as you come in. My only solution has been to run a drop cord from the power pedestal's 20 A outlet. I can then run the griddle, coffee maker, and toaster outside.
I solved that problem on my flagstaff by adding two circuits which was easy to do only had to pull on run of wire. Now the bath and outside plug our it own 15A. If you are interested send me a pm and I'll explain in detail.
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Well, they've never had the SWDEL in the Roo/Shamrock hybrids until apparently the 2017 models.
Haven't ever heard of any previous model years having them.
Hey Dan - I think my 2016 Shamrock has the SWDEL water heater- at my PDI, I was told that there is rocker switch on the water tank that I had to flip first before I turned on the electric on the panel -
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Hey Dan - I think my 2016 Shamrock has the SWDEL water heater- at my PDI, I was told that there is rocker switch on the water tank that I had to flip first before I turned on the electric on the panel -
No, apparently the SWDEL'S also has an additional electric switch, which is inside the RV,on a panel.
not just on the outside on the water heater.

You have the regular SWDE, like me.
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No, it has the switch on the panel inside.
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No, it has the switch on the panel inside.
Sure does............ the 2016's I have seen have it, and I am fairly certain 2015 had it also.

Ours is a Suburban but I wish it was an Atwood with no anode rod.
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Hey Dan - I think my 2016 Shamrock has the SWDEL water heater- at my PDI, I was told that there is rocker switch on the water tank that I had to flip first before I turned on the electric on the panel -
Gals: If you have it, then you should have TWO switches inside - one for gas, one for electric - and one switch outside - for electric. Is that what you have?
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Yep, I do. Two switches inside, one for gas and one for electric with another switch on the heater tank itself. It needs to be on to run on electric.
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Yep, I do. Two switches inside, one for gas and one for electric with another switch on the heater tank itself. It needs to be on to run on electric.
Yep, three switches total (a 12 volt switch inside as well as a 120 volt switch outside for the electric element) along with a 12 volt switch inside for the propane/dsi.

That's a SWDEL model, just as you stated.

FYI, if you ever need the installation/operation guide for this particular model of Suburban, we added it's operating manual to the library awhile back.

http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...do=file&id=169
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