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04-06-2017, 08:03 PM
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Glacier National Park
Hi All!
The fam and I are taking our first long adventure with our 2013 Roo 19. This is our 3rd season with it and have done nothing to the tires and wheel bearing since 2014 when we bought it barley used. We mostly have only taken it locally on trips(4 a summer or so)less then 200 miles with our longest journey to Northern Minnesota at around 800 miles R/T.
We are heading from Wisconsin out to GNP about 2400 miles R/T. I guess I'm looking for things to look for to avoid any issues on this adventure. I guess I'm not sure how many miles/years tires, brakes or wheel bearings should be serviced to avoid any potential issues on our trip.
We will be in Fish Creek Campground on Lake McDonald any issues with bears that anyone has experienced out that way?
Thanks in advance for any responses!
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04-06-2017, 08:22 PM
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We spent 4 nights at Fish Creek last September. Very nice CG and some really good day hikes in the area. Never saw any bear sign, and we were looking! Buy some bear spray for peace of mind.
I would pull the hubs and inspect and repack the bearings or have a shop you trust do it. We traveled from the Minneapolis area and there is a lot of countryside between here and there where it would be painful to be laid up with running gear problems. Most anything else that breaks on a trailer can be lived without or Gorilla taped - tires, bearings and axles are not in that category.
If you are taking I90 check out Teddy Roosevelt NP as a possible overnight. Nice CGs in a cool setting.
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04-06-2017, 08:23 PM
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Still have original tires? If so, I would replace them. You don't need tire problems on a long family trip and you are on borrowed time.
Also, repack the bearings.
Good luck on the trip. Sounds great.
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04-06-2017, 08:29 PM
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Glacier is Spectacular, you will enjoy it very much. It's a once in a lifetime trip (OK, I may try to get there a few more times).
Not sure with Glacier, but many national parks treat Hybrids/Pop-ups as "tents" - No food allowed inside. We were in Glacier last year about a week before the Grizzly attack on the west side of the park (Mt biker on path came upon a grizzly...). When hiking carry bear spray and hike with a group.
As far as tires if they are less than 8 years old and have good tread you should be good.
Photos from my trip last year: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cdrdwd...57668265484464
If you get a chance to stop at Bonanzaville Pioneer Village and Cass County Museum | Bonanzaville do so, we stopped for 30 minutes and stayed a few hours.
Enjoy your trip!
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04-06-2017, 08:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NoviBill
Not sure with Glacier, but many national parks treat Hybrids/Pop-ups as "tents" - No food allowed inside.
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Untrue.
we've camped in our hybrid at Yellowstone, Glacier, Grand Tetons and Yosemite.
The ONLY campground that had a permanent ban on soft-sided campers, was Fishing Bridge in YNP.
All other campgrounds that we could fit in, allowed soft-sided campers.
I've asked for 10 years, from those that make this claim, what other NP campgrounds have such bans.
Outside of Alaska, Fishing Bridge is the only one.
Every NP ranger we asked said refrigerated food could stay and only opened non-refridgeratef food had to go in the bear box.
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04-06-2017, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bikendan
Untrue.
we've camped in our hybrid at Yellowstone, Glacier, Grand Tetons and Yosemite.
The ONLY campground that had a permanent ban on soft-sided campers, was Fishing Bridge in YNP.
All other campgrounds that we could fit in, allowed soft-sided campers.
I've asked for 10 years, from those that make this claim, what other NP campgrounds have such bans.
Outside of Alaska, Fishing Bridge is the only one.
Every NP ranger we asked said refrigerated food could stay and only opened non-refridgeratef food had to go in the bear box.
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Thanks for the info Bikendan
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04-06-2017, 08:58 PM
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Just to be clear. There is no ban on soft sided campers and I never said that, but the food rules are clear.
https://www.nps.gov/glac/planyourvisit/camping.htm
Food Storage
Animals are attracted to food and food odors. All food, lawfully taken fish, garbage, and equipment used to cook, serve or store food must be kept sealed in a vehicle, or in a camping unit that is constructed of solid, non-pliable material, or suspended from any NPS designated food hanging device, or secured in any NPS designated storage locker, secured in an Interagency Grizzly Bear Committee (IGBC) approved bear resistant container or secured in a structure or dwelling, at all times, except when these items are being transported, consumed, or prepared for consumption.
If you violate the rules and don't have a problem, that does not make it OK. Me I will protect my family (which is the reason for the rules).
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04-06-2017, 09:07 PM
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This guy charged a 12 passenger van with me in it:
Brown Bear by cdrdwd, on Flickr
He would have no problem climbing through a hybrid for food...'
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04-06-2017, 09:14 PM
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Just make sure he wipes his paws before coming in for a visit.
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04-06-2017, 10:08 PM
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04-06-2017, 10:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mordecai
We spent 4 nights at Fish Creek last September. Very nice CG and some really good day hikes in the area. Never saw any bear sign, and we were looking! Buy some bear spray for peace of mind.
I would pull the hubs and inspect and repack the bearings or have a shop you trust do it. We traveled from the Minneapolis area and there is a lot of countryside between here and there where it would be painful to be laid up with running gear problems. Most anything else that breaks on a trailer can be lived without or Gorilla taped - tires, bearings and axles are not in that category.
If you are taking I90 check out Teddy Roosevelt NP as a possible overnight. Nice CGs in a cool setting.
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Thanks for the advise on TR NP looks like a good stop!
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04-07-2017, 08:27 AM
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You have received conflicting advice on tires. I suggest you research this forum for info on tires. There are countless posts about China Bombs, relatively new tires blowing up or shredding for no apparent reason.
My 23ikss is starting it's fourth season this year. Before next season it will have new tires. A good family friend owns an independent tire store. He said trailer tires are usually warranted for 3 or 4 years. That tells him to replace them after 4 seasons.
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04-07-2017, 12:47 PM
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A bear will go in a hard side or even a fully timber framed cabin looking for food just as fast as a popout camper. They can put a claw in any RV door and pull it off the hinges in 5 seconds. I bet if they did go into an expanded popout, they would go trough the door not the tent. I have never seen a grizzly in Glacier but everytime we go to Yellowstone we see at least 5. Last year we saw 13. There are bears in Glacier but they have much more room to get away from the campgrounds and the couple roads that cut through the park. So backcountry hiking carry spray but most places you will not see bears.
The lake you are staying on is crystal clear. They banned ALL boats late last summer because of invasive mussels, but just lifted that ban for human powered craft with a park inspection. They also rent kayaks there at the lodge and do have some charter sightseeing rides I think are the only powered boats allowed.
Going to the sun road you obviously can't take the camper on but you could drive the truck over it. There will be no where to park at the top though unless you win life's lottery LOL! Instead you can ride the busses up and get off, hang/hike around, and catch another bus going back down.
If yo have a passport be sure and visit the Canadian side. The grand old hotel over there is cool and in a nice area.
Are you coming over on I-94 then I-90? Any stops along the way? I recommend Makoshika state park in Glendive MT for a night if that works for a good break. Pretty badlands with just a few camp spots and a few wild horses. Some fossil beds there, right on the edge of town. If you are south on I-90 that wouldn't work, I would stop in Wyoming or try and make it to Livingston MT.
If you are staying way north, highway 2, I can't give much advice except that is the road I would take. I love that back way, 2 lane. I go slower towing, like 55-60 you don't feel like you are getting rolled around all day by semis on the freeway. I also love the Montana small towns. Billings, Missoula, Bozeman, Helena, Butte, Great Falls, Kalispell are the last worst places in Montana although Kalispell is the least worst.
We are in Missoula MT if you have any other questions ask! Enjoy your time here!
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04-07-2017, 01:17 PM
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Going to the Sun Road has size restrictions on vehicles. Total length cannot exceed 21', max height 10' and max width is 8'. Keep that in mind when you go to Glacier NP.
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04-07-2017, 01:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Untrue.
we've camped in our hybrid at Yellowstone, Glacier, Grand Tetons and Yosemite.
The ONLY campground that had a permanent ban on soft-sided campers, was Fishing Bridge in YNP.
All other campgrounds that we could fit in, allowed soft-sided campers.
I've asked for 10 years, from those that make this claim, what other NP campgrounds have such bans.
Outside of Alaska, Fishing Bridge is the only one.
Every NP ranger we asked said refrigerated food could stay and only opened non-refridgeratef food had to go in the bear box.
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You both right and wrong.
You can keep food in your fridge in your soft sided camper. No issue. But if there is bear activity in the campground, all soft sided campers will be treated exactly like tents and told to pack up and leave. (unless you can turtle) This is rare, but it does happen esp near the end of season as bear enter hyperphagia.
Bears are to be respected but not feared. The trip to Glacier on highways is a more likely place of danger than bears in the park. (unless you like hiking with raw meat in your backpack)
Have fun. We have reservations in Many Glacier this year for 2 weeks and can't wait
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04-07-2017, 01:44 PM
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You should try Many Glacier campground. Beautiful. And many trailheads from there.
IMO, your tires should be fine. 5 years/30,000 miles should be fine. As for the hubs, you should have zerks in there. Pull the rubber cap, put in 10 to 15 squirts of bearing grease; you should be fine.
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04-07-2017, 03:59 PM
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If you don't have many glacier reservations already, you're too late. We got in for one night. Way cool, but not many openings.
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04-08-2017, 07:40 AM
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We will be staying at the KOA in St Mary for 10 days in early August. Cannot wait! Did Yellowstone 2 years ago and loved Cody. Did Vernal and Moab last year. This one will be special!
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04-08-2017, 07:42 AM
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My 45 years experience living in Montana bears usually only eat Minnesotans.
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04-08-2017, 08:32 AM
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Viking fans.....Makes sense.
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