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Old 03-23-2014, 04:36 PM   #1
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Goods/Bads of owning a 23ikss?

I've been lurking for days and have loved reading all of your info. We are thinking about trading in our 2008 Niagara and getting a 23ikss.

What is the good or bad from your experiences?
Should I try to sell on Craigslist (my idea) or just trade it in (hubby's idea)?

We camp often including a 34-day trip across the SWern US. Our Niagara is a little rough around the edges.

Any regrets about owning a 23ikss?

We are wondering if we should wait until the 2015s are released. Thoughts?

Thanks for all of your help! We have loved our Niagara but think an easier set up/pack down would be nice. Will it be that much easier??
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:06 PM   #2
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We've owned our 2014 23IKSS for 1 camping season we really like ours. It has a lot of room took ours from Illinois to Camp Wilderness at Disney World last May and it towed really well.
The only thing it lacks would be a shower enclosure. It also has a lot of storage space and we have not had any problems with ours after about 8 camping trips
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:07 PM   #3
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Now is a good time to sell the Niagara. I had a UTAH and it sold on Craig's list in 2 days. Buying without a trade will always guarantee best price.

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Old 03-23-2014, 05:23 PM   #4
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Oh these are great responses! Thank you! I'm excited about owning this camper after 10 years of pop ups. It'll be nice to store "camping" clothes, have a full refrigerator, and lots of storage. Maybe we can even take *only* the TV for the 4 of us instead of 2 vehicles to get all of our "stuff".

How clean does the Niagara have to be to sell it? I mean, we have stickers all over the back. Should I remove those? With Goof off or something?
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:40 PM   #5
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Clean it like you would want to buy it. Price it slightly below nada value for your area and condition. Stay firm on your rock bottom price. It will sell quickly. The only thing I miss with my pop-up is the king size beds. I envy you with your choice. It wasn't even thought of when I was buying. You will love it. Order now. It will probably be a 2015.

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Old 03-23-2014, 05:42 PM   #6
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I meant 2014. Fat finger s

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We probably won't use the shower much, but at least we now have an option. Even though our PUP had a shower, the holding tank was so small, it wasn't worth it. I wish it were enclosed, too. I remember thinking that. My teenagers will not be using the shower.

As for the King beds, yes, we share a queen at home and a king is always so nice while camping. Since we'll be empty nesting soon, we will have the option to have a queen to ourselves if needed.

Sounds good about reselling. I need to clean it up then. We have a camping trip in 2 weeks with the Niagara and then another trip scheduled June 20th. I hope we have the new camper by then. It's going to mean cleaning, selling and ordering in as few of days as possible.

Thanks again you guys...keep the advice coming!
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:31 PM   #8
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What is the good or bad from your experiences?
Should I try to sell on Craigslist (my idea) or just trade it in (hubby's idea)?

We camp often including a 34-day trip across the SWern US. Our Niagara is a little rough around the edges.
We upgraded from 2000 Coleman to an IKSS last year. Our opinion would be there is nothing we don't like about it. We liked our popup, but after 13 seasons, it was time for a full kitchen and a bathroom.

My experience has been that popups sell fast on CL or even e-Bay for good $$. My sister-in-law called us and bought ours the day she heard we bought the new camper. If you want, ask the dealer what they will give you, then compare that to CL. I would bet you get a lot more selling it yourself, and it will sell quick.

We took a 12 night trip last summer - 2,800 miles to visit some friends. We had 4 nights in one spot, and 8 one night stops. So glad we didn't do that in the popup! We got pull-through sites and stayed hooked up. The front bunk came down and was clear of the truck.

As the earlier post mentioned - the shower isn't really usable, at least for me. But we've always used the cg showers, so not a big deal to us. Otherwise, we just love this floorplan and have been very happy with everything about the Roo. This camper worked great for traveling on a long trip, and its also great for a week at the lake in a state park with no hookups.

Its a little heavier than some other 23' trailers, but it tows great with the pickup. And it fits into all the places we used to take the popup, which was a big deal to us. Its less work to pack and setup, so we use it a lot more for weekend trips, and we have greatly extended our season and our "territory." No AC in the popup, which kept us out of the hot weather in the south and the east coast beaches, and we now camp in the spring and fall when its cool here. Discovering fall camping and how great it can be was one of the best things about the new camper.

Good luck in your hunt!
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:43 PM   #9
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I have not seen a Shamrock 23IKSS, but from the floor plan, it looks like when the slides are close, the kitchen(fridge, stove and sink) are not accessible and same for bathroom. It seems you would have to bump the slide open to be able to use on the road when travelling. Something to thing of.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:49 PM   #10
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Very good point. I read that the bathroom will not be accessible. I'm okay with that. We're good about stopping at rest areas. If the fridge can't be accessed, then I'm back to packing coolers with food before leaving for a trip. I would LOVE to throw everything into the camper. I guess I could open it at home before the trip.

Does anyone know offhand of great hybrids with the fridge and bathroom accessible?
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First, what do you plan to tow with? You'll need something with a v-8. Unless it's an Ecoboost truck.

Second, nearly all hybrids allow accessto fridge & bathroom. The 23IKSS is the exception.

Third, trading in is a loser's deal.
Best to sell yourself.
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:15 PM   #12
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Well, phooey. I really didn't think about the access to the bathroom and fridge. I love the floorplan, but am not too happy about that situation. Thanks for the opinion.

We have a 2007 Toyota Tundra Crewcab Limited.
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:23 PM   #13
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Is it a 2007 or 2010 Tundra?
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Oops!! It's an '07...correcting now.
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We were deciding between the 233, ikss and the 23ss in February, 2013. it was a very difficult decision as all of the floor plans had pros/cons when comparing. We personally didn't like the potential for loss of outdoor living space under the awning outside due to the kitchen slide (might not be a big deal in hindsight) and the potential to utilize the fridge or bathroom when traveling.

That said, we ended up going with the 23ss - guess what? We store our bikes (only 3 of us) inside our 23ss - so we don't access the bathroom/fridge now!

We stayed away from the 233 as a poster or two here said if you don't need the extra bed don't volunteer to have an additional hole on the side of the trailer to worry about .

All things considered we LOVE the added counter space in the 23 vs the 233 but I'm sure the added storage in the ikss and additional counter space is an added plus for those owners.

Now that we've had the 23 for a year I have to admit I wouldn't mind owning the 233 either. Can't have it all, but we are very pleased with our Roo.

Yep - I'm rambling so ill close now....

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We had a Roo for a while ~ I love the IKSS floorplan and think I would have kept it had it been the IKSS. Our biggest issue was going from a hard side tt to a hybrid (Noise issue when sleeping) but with you coming from a popup I'm thinking you'll love it
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We love ours. To answer your question:

Pros:
1) tons of space with slides out (we even have space for the pack and play with room to spare)

2) tons of storage (island adds to it)

3) back bunk has tons of privacy

4) counter space

5) 1 slide is protected by awning so You don't have to add the cover for it

Cons:

1) no access to fridge or bathroom (it literally takes 2 seconds to slide out kitchen)

2) shower is small

3) its a heavy trailer with 2 slides

4) limited floor space for packing with both slides in

5) I wish we would have gotten the tri fold sofa instead of jack knife (don't know if they even offer it)


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Well, phooey. I really didn't think about the access to the bathroom and fridge. I love the floorplan, but am not too happy about that situation. Thanks for the opinion.

We have a 2007 Toyota Tundra Crewcab Limited.
This issue seems to get a lot of attention, but we didn't find it to be a big deal. The kitchen slide isn't deep - you can open it anywhere. We've put it out at rest stops, parking lots, on the street. It takes less than 30 seconds to push the button and you have access to everything in the kitchen and the bathroom. We always use the kitchen to make lunch when on the road, and sometimes use the bathroom on short stops. To us, that issue isn't even a consideration.

You do loose a little bit of awning space when setup, but its still about 3X more space under the awning than we had with the popup, so that trade off for the huge interior was worth it to us.
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I bought my 23ikss last april and we love it! The small loss of awning space is not an issue, the slide takes 10 seconds to oppen if you need to use the restroom or the kitchen. The space is great , I have not seen any other hybrids with this amount of storage space. We do not dry camp so the shower being small is not an issue as we use the campgrounds showers. I think we got lucky because ours is a 2014 and we got it last year. We still have the outside access to the kitchen and we have the airbed option for the sofa which is very comfortable (My son Loves It) When cooking the counter space is nice and the oven works great (we put a pizza stone in the bottom for even heat) It tows nice with our 2006 Avalanche.
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Oh my gosh, this is great advice. I don't think we'll find a problem with getting to the fridge or bathroom if the kitchen slide is so easy to use.

I called our dealer and he's already sold 2 - 2015. I didn't even know they were out there. He said we could make our down payment to get the new camper in May or June. I guess they're offering either Cherry or Hickory. Decisions, decisions!

Thank you ALL for your help. A wealth of knowledge is here and I sure do appreciate it. I'll keep you guys informed!!
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