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Old 02-15-2015, 03:10 PM   #1
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Has anyone seen or purchased the 21BD?

I really like the floor plan as it features a few things I like better than the 21dk such as the dinette windows and the half wall that will help block the mattress when turtled. The storage deck would really help in taking some of my gear as well but not sure I want to really add that weight on the tongue. I haven't heard anything about it.

The thing I am trying to figure out is why that model is listed in the brochure as 7 inches taller than the 21dk? I noticed 2 of the longer models are also listed as 7 inches taller. Don't they all share the same curved ceilings?

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Old 02-15-2015, 03:57 PM   #2
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First, don't rely on listed dimensions if this is a critical determinant in any way for you! The listed height is ground to roof of "fixed" structure and does not include items like vents, skylights, A/C, antenna, etc!

For the deck model, the camper box is sitting on a different frame configuration, which is where you have a height variation. Further, the DK does not have (or need) a flush slideout, but the slide is flush for the dinette on the BD. Because of the slide mechanisms used, this is also height difference.
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:21 PM   #3
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Thanks geotex. I wish they offered it without the cargo box as I really like the extra floor space it gives you with the larger slide yet it keeps most of the things I like about the 21DK. That entertainment center is very nice as well.

The height isn't really an issue but every inch matters in towing so not loving a taller profile.
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Old 02-15-2015, 11:52 PM   #4
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This is a brand new floor plan and may not have made it to the dealers yet.
I've never even seen it mentioned on any other hybrid forum nor anyone owning one yet.
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Old 02-17-2015, 08:20 AM   #5
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Do any of the towing experts have an opinion on whether the front rack on the 21BD could cause issues with WDH? I plan to invest in a Blue Ox Sway Pro as I wasn't super excited by my old chain and friction bar setup in my previous TT.

Looking at the photos I am wondering if there is enough room for the brackets.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:40 AM   #6
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I have the 21SSL with the big (8'x8') deck on the front. I have the Reese Dual-Cam WDH and my snap-up brackets are just behind the propane tanks. In fact, I have to squish the rear corners of the bottle cover in a little bit to get it to clear the brackets (about a quarter inch or so). Assuming roughly the same dimensions from the ball coupler to the propane tanks, it looks like my setup would work OK on the BD. I can't speak about any other types.

I don't have a great photo, but here is one I have. You can kinda see where they are.

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Thanks for that feedback! I didn't even think about clearing the propane tanks so that is another consideration. It looks like you have a lot more room between the tanks and the start of your storage deck. The BD looks like it has only a small amount of space between the tanks and the deck.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:54 AM   #8
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Cow racer , how does that tow? my tow vehicle is 7.3 Excursion with V and b mod springs. That is the trailer that I want but I am worried about how it will tow without a lot of weight up front. I want the toy hauler for bikes, cooler, firewood, lawn chairs and such. The only time it would have a 4 wheeler on it is deer season once a year at best. I am just worried about the lack of tongue weight. Plus I am currently using a Hensley arrow hitch which would be overkill. Thanks
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Most typical modern WDH should fit the 21BD just fine because FR is completely aware most setups will need to run one. However, I wanted to get you a first-hand answer. DW and I know a family who bought one of the first BDs off the line (sounds like they got every option too)! We spoke last night planning our yearly NE get-together so I asked. Dealer installed their 1K/10K Equal-i-zer from their prior TT, and it fit fine.

Our friends are over the moon with it! I'm envious they are camping this weekend.
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Old 02-17-2015, 01:02 PM   #10
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Thank you so much! It helps to know that will work. Now I just have to do a real "versus" list between that and the DK and I should be good to go. For those of you with any Roo model, do you think having the half wall in front of the front bunk is a good thing or a bad thing? I see how it could cut down on the open feeling the bunks give you, but I also see how it could keep the mattress contained when turtling. It seems like the BD runs about 1k more in price but definitely getting some bang for that buck in storage.

Thanks again, it is so hard when you can't sit down in a new model to answer some of these questions.
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