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Old 07-05-2015, 08:22 AM   #1
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Heads up on interior modifications

This applies specifically to the Roo 19 but I am sure this could come up with other models as well.

Yesterday I finally go around to installing coat hooks on the outside of the bathroom wall at the entry to the trailer. I needed to drill a couple of holes for toggle blots as there is only one stud in this wall and the material is very thin. I located where the holes need to be measuring the location (I can't use a level because of the slope of my driveway, but this is another lesson learned) and drilled the first hole only to find to my surprise the toilet vent stack is located in this wall! By some miracle I didn't drill through the pipe.

Just be forewarned that even though the walls are thin in the trailer that doesn't mean that there are thing buried in the wall hidden from sight!

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Old 07-05-2015, 08:29 AM   #2
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This applies to (All) units! Floors also! Youroo!!

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Old 07-05-2015, 08:33 AM   #3
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Yep there's stuff in them there walls!!!
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An easy way to install a row of coat hooks but there are lacking studs or proper backing would be....

1) Place a strip of 'low tack masking tape' horizontally at the height of hooks.
2) locate the stud(s) (with a stud finder) and make a mark on each side of it on the tape.
3) depending on your space make or purchase a 'coat hook board' see picture* would be best to pick or make a reasonably wide board 3 to 4 inches for mounting.
4) by drilling 2 pilot holes (vertically) in the Hook board spaced just down from the top and up from the bottom "at the location of the stud" for a #8 wood screw. ..length depends on thickness of hook board and allow about 5/8 " to 3/4" to penetrate into stud. **Note the stud may be Aluminum a self tapping metal screw would be advised here.

I would advise not relying on the paneling to screw into for support...
- no strength and possible hidden wires or?

Even if the mounting screw location is off center the hook board will still hold quite a bit of weight...if securely attached.
You may want to counter sink and plug the board.

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Good reply islander, gotta get into those studs one way it another.
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Old 07-05-2015, 12:18 PM   #6
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Whenever I've needed to attach something to a surface that is questionable as far as weight bearing capacity is concerned there are two approaches I use. (and I say this as a retired finish carpenter/cabinet maker with over 35 years experience)

1. if the weight will not be excessive, use double sticky tape. Office Depot sells one that has a foam type center that is about 1/16". Has a red cellophane type cover that is peeled off. A bit expensive but it holds like concrete. I have used it on commercial jobs to attach plastic wheelchair accessible (and other) signs to glass storefronts. After 24 hours it takes a chisel to remove. If you can add a screw or two to a stud it makes it even better. There is also a paper thin double-sided tape I get from a professional sign making supply store. I have tested it by sticking two pieces of wood together, waiting overnight, then trying to pull them apart. The tape did not give ... the wood splintered first.

2. epoxy glue. When weight bearing is more of a concern I always turn to epoxy. I have used it more times than I can count and have never been called back because of a failure of the bond. The only problem with epoxy is that it can be brittle, so it may not be good for high vibration situations. Again, if you can add in a few screws/nails here and there where possible you shouldn't have any worries.
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Old 07-05-2015, 12:28 PM   #7
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I usually just use the 3m stick up hooks to avoid drilling holes. That said, DH Hungary flat screen on the bedroom walls and went through the studs and out the other side ofc the fiver because he used too long of a screw. We fixed it but lesson learned to double check the size of screw you are using.
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I have found that COMMAND HOOKS are your friend when it comes to campers. No holes to drill and no problems on what is inside the walls. Then as time down the road if you change your mind you just remove the hooks and place in another location if you want.
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I have had lamination? separation on command hooks. To much on one hook for to long? Yea but still...
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:08 PM   #10
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mods in/on walls

My dad had an antique aircraft tool that was used to place fasteners on sheet metal. I did some research and the fasteners are called jack-nuts.
You drill a 1/2" hole just through the surface, place the jack nut of a puller tool, (think like a pop-rivet gun pulling a stud), insert the jack-nut in the hole and close up the puller tool. The jack-nut squashes to leave a almost flush threaded insert, 10/32 female thread that squeezes the skin to make a solid connection. Covers much more area than a screw, doesn't go as deep, and rugged in the 1/8" or 3/32" plywood wall surface.

By the way, walk gently on the ribs or rafters of your roof. Everywhere else is only 3/16" thick.

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