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Old 05-03-2011, 06:13 PM   #11
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the dealer did not advise me of any issue with the hitch and the jeep, quite the opposite, this would allow for a more smoother handling when towing.

i can't look at the specs now, i don't have the jeep and trailer, they're at the dealer for a few service issues..

would be a simple as changing out the hitch to a class III/IV

i'll look on reeses site for info.thx
no one should simply rely on what a dealer says. they just want the sale, no matter what. it's not their problem if you discover you are overweight.
i also, concur with the others that you'll be at or over the max of your Jeep.
most hybrids will be 300-400lbs. over its "dry" weight when delivered from the factory. "dry" weight is fictional number that no trailer actually weighs. my Roo weighed exactly 400lbs. over its dry weight, as it sat on the dealer's lot.
that was before we added a battery, propane and water, let alone cargo.
the Roo 17 has a GVWR of 3841lbs. and that's the number your tow vehicle should be able to tow, in most cases.
there should be a sticker inside one of the kitchen cabinets' door, with the trailer's actual UVW when it left the factory. that'll be its weight before battery, water and cargo. usually it

and without a WDH with sway control, you're putting yourself, your family and us in danger with such a short wheelbase vehicle that also has a low tow rating.

adding a receiver to it, doesn't equate a factory tow package. along with the type III/IV receiver, you need to get a tranny cooler, 7-pin connector and pre-wiring for the brake controller.
you didn't mention if the dealer is installed a brake controller, which is required by law.
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Old 05-03-2011, 06:23 PM   #12
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the specs on jeep's site state that the with a wdh the jeep can tow 3500lbs otherwise it can only tow 2000lbs.
I didn't see any mention of a WDH on the Jeep Unlimited site, but that doesn't mean it isn't there......I just can't find it.

On your hitch, there should be a sticker with the maximum weights.....you might have to crawl underneath the Jeep to find that puppy. With the stickers you stated above, the sticker should read something like "maximum tow rating with a weight distributing system 3500 lbs., with a maximum 350 lb. tongue weight. Maximum tow rating weight carrying 2000 lbs., with a maximum tongue weight of 200 lbs" or something to those affects. If so, then using a WDH and keeping the weights below those figures should work. If there is no weight listed for a weight distributing setup, then I would hesitate to use 1.

I didn't think that a Class II hitch would be compatible with a weight distributing system, but I have been wrong before, and will be again sometime in the near future.
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Old 05-03-2011, 06:24 PM   #13
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let me clear up this before it gets out of hand

there is an electronic brake controller, not sure which model.
there is a 7 pin wiring harness.
there is a class II hitch that can be and is connected to a wdh
transmission cooler to be installed

i'm sorry if this is troubling anyone, as someone new to towing i felt what jeep and rockwood had offered as specs would have been enough to get started with and then looking to the dealer for their support, i'm not sure what to do here.
correct me if i'm wrong is anyone suggesting i do not tow with this combination.
i'm trying to learn and understand
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Old 05-03-2011, 06:35 PM   #14
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from mopar

Hitch Receiver

Designed as a one-piece welded assembly for added strength over multiple piece designs, Mopar Hitch Receivers match your vehicle`s towing capacity/uses. Covered with two-layered, E-coated paint finish to resist rust. All Mopar hitches pass Chrysler`s extensive road testing for durability and strength. Check Owner`s Manual for hitch type, load capacity and heavy-duty equipment required. Do not exceed rated tow capacity of vehicle stated in Owner`s Manual. May require other items not supplied by Mopar.

...3,500-lb tow rating, 350-lb tongue weight rating with weight distributing equipment; otherwise 2000-lb tow rating, 200-lb tongue weight rating, 2"" opening, Same as Production, Hitch Ball and ball mount sold separately. Center mount rear Tow Hook cannot be used with Hitch Receiver....
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Old 05-03-2011, 06:37 PM   #15
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mml, sorry about the confusion. This is my fault when I hijacked your thread concerning a bike rack. When you listed the tow vehicle, then that was a concern to me. It does not mean that you can't tow with the Jeep, but the members of the forum want everybody to be safe out there. So we ask questions to see what the stats are, and go from there.

If you have the brake controller, adding a transmission cooler (must be an automatic, huh), the hitch is rated to pull that weight, and you keep within the tow limits and the GVWR of the Jeep, then you should be good to go.
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Old 05-03-2011, 06:39 PM   #16
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no worries all good

now back to the bike rack, i can assume that a tongue mounted rack for 3 bikes will push the limits..
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let me clear up this before it gets out of hand

there is an electronic brake controller, not sure which model.
there is a 7 pin wiring harness.
there is a class II hitch that can be and is connected to a wdh
transmission cooler to be installed

i'm sorry if this is troubling anyone, as someone new to towing i felt what jeep and rockwood had offered as specs would have been enough to get started with and then looking to the dealer for their support, i'm not sure what to do here.
correct me if i'm wrong is anyone suggesting i do not tow with this combination.
i'm trying to learn and understand
If it were me, I would not, hence my purchase of a new tow vehicle. I was told:

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Always apply the rule of 80. Never tow more than 80% of your tow vehicle's rated tow capacity. The tow capacity is figured with 1 single adult weighing 250 lbs
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I'm also interested in the bike rack. At the moment, I'm just putting them in the camper.


I know what it's like to try to figure out the towing numbers - big PITA!
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mml, there's only one manufactured tongue-mounted bike rack. it's made in Canada by a company called Arvika.

they aren't cheap and difficult to find dealers in the U.S.

others have custom-made theirs. but, i doubt you'll have any extra tongue weight capacity, once you add the weight of the WDH, propane and battery.
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Most bike racks I've heard of on the tongue are custom mods.

Is your Jeep a hard top? If its a soft top, just ignore this, but you can add a Yakima roof top carrier to a Jeep hard top.


Weight Police warning: Assuming that your Jeep has the cargo rating to support the rack and bikes, the tongue weight, people, etc.
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