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Old 08-18-2015, 06:32 PM   #1
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Installing Hardwire Surge Protector

Anyone install a hardwire surge protector in the Roo19 or Shamrock 19? I'm looking at the EMS LCHW30 from Progressive Industries. Was it easy to install/access the 120V/30A electrical wiring from inside the trailer? How about any issues powering the hybrid from a portable inverter generator once the surge protector is permanently installed? Thanks in advance for the info. I like the idea of a hardwired surge protector vice a portable one for security purposes as well as one less thing I have to lug out every time I set up camp.
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Old 08-18-2015, 07:09 PM   #2
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I installed it in my 23ikss. I would imagine the converter/power center is the same. I pulled out the converter. Cut the orange wire to give me enough length to go into the ems and come out. Mounter the EMS to the converter. Drilled a hole in the cabinet as high as I could in the closet the ems/converter/power center is in for the remote. I didn't take pics of my install, but it is very easy.
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Old 08-18-2015, 07:36 PM   #3
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Nothing hard about it at all. PI units come with very clear instructions also.
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Old 08-18-2015, 08:23 PM   #4
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Installing the hardwired EMS is simple basic electrical, but I went with the portable unit for a couple reasons:
1). Windjammer still under warranty and if there was a electrical problem not related to the install, I know FR would say it was my fault.
2). They have a slight hummm or buzz sound didn't want to listen to that trying to sleep. I figured that sound would be amplified inside the cabinet.
3). Heard that if you have a lightening strike, you're not protected from trailer plug to the EMS. So the voltage from the lightening is in the TT.
4) . If it has to be sent back to Progressive for warranty service, I just send it back without TT being down.
I opted for the portable. LOVE IT...
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Old 08-18-2015, 08:41 PM   #5
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portable is a great option..still can't go wrong as long as it's a PI. Another neg for the HW would be "ya can't take it withya" if you trade up at some point. Install issue: 30 amp rolmex, really hard to bend and cut...lol.

Now, never heard a hum from mine. The display on the inside constantly scrolls status, geeky stuff. DW turns on the mic..I look over at the display. DW turns on the A/C/ I look over at the display.
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Old 08-18-2015, 08:43 PM   #6
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Turbs did a nice install using male/female plug ends so he could easily remove the EMS from the circuit if it ever failed. Ours has saved our equipment more than a few times.
Many generators, like our Honda, use a floating ground which the Progressive unit (Maybe other brands) see as an open ground and will not engage. Progressive instructions show how to install an included jumper wire to circumvent this issue. On one of my RVs I installed a switch to the jumper location and on another I simply use a Ground-Neutral Bond plug-Generator Ground-Neutral Bonding | No~Shock~Zone
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Old 08-18-2015, 08:50 PM   #7
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There is a disclaimer on PI's website about Yamaha's 2000 units don't produce enough amps on start up and could damage PI unit. Even with two 2000 gennys in parallel. Of course I learned of this after buying PI unit. Had to install bypass switch to go with my two Yammys.
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Old 08-18-2015, 09:38 PM   #8
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I'm looking at the Champion 3100 inverter generator to power my Roo when I go boondocking. Has anyone had any issues running their Roo off of a generator with the surge protector connected to the generator? Do I need a bypass? If I have an inverter generator with clean electricity, is a surge protector still needed? Thanks in advance for any advice.
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I opted for the hardwired EMS 30 for our 23IKSS. It is installed on the inside front of the bathroom cabinet. That is where the power comes in from the outside, and there was plenty of slack wire to splice it in. As pjnlorrie mentioned, Turbs has some great installation pictures where he used 30amp plugs and I followed his lead. Using the plugs makes it easy to:
1) remove the unit if you sell your RV
2) bypass the unit should it ever fail
Essentially, you get the benefits of a portable unit without having to worry about theft. I know some have concerns about installing it in the bathroom cabinet, but when I looked at all the potential installation options, this made the most sense. There are so many places in the RV where water and electric lines are close together I wasn't really concerned about the EMS getting wet.
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