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Old 04-16-2016, 11:27 PM   #1
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Looking at buying a used Roo...

Hi all,

I'm looking at buying a used 19' Roo from a private party. It'll be our first camper, so I was hoping someone could have tips for things to look for and answer some questions.

I've looked at it twice today already, and it's very clean and appears to be well kept. I didn't see it all opened up, yet.

The Roo has a GVWR of 4590 lbs. I have a 2013 4WD Ford Explorer w/ the tow package, so it has a max tow rating of 5000 lbs. My region is quite flat and I don't plan on going into any mountains ever, so I think that this is right in the sweet spot of where I'd like to be in terms of size.

Ford has a nice towing guide I've been looking at that basically says that the sum of everything in or towed by the explorer must be less than the Gross Combination Weight Rating.

The GCWR is 10,160 lbs
The curb weight of the explorer is 4,697.
The GVWR of the is 4590 lbs

Assuming we maxed out the camper, that leaves 873 lbs of passenger & cargo weight in the TV itself.

There's 4 of us (2 kids 7 & 11). Combined, we're probably around 520 lbs. However, the kids will grow & get heavier. Hopefully my wife & I will not get heavier. I could see us getting up to 650 lbs to 700 lbs when they reach later teenage years - assuming we're still doing this then or haven't upgraded to a vehicle that provides more capacity.

That leaves 353 lbs of cargo. I don't know what we would carry as cargo in the TV that would add up to 353 lbs.

I figure we can save a few hundred pounds by towing with empty water tanks. We're new to this and don't expect we're going to go off somewhere that would require us to be completely self sufficient.

If you've made it this far, I appreciate it and look forward to any guidance anyone would have.

Thanks!
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Old 04-16-2016, 11:37 PM   #2
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I'm sure you'll hear from more experienced members, but I have the same Explorer, and the sales person I worked with recommended that I didn't get that close to the GVWR. Of course, I do live in Colorado, so that may have been a big reason! I'm curious to hear what others say...
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Old 04-17-2016, 01:23 AM   #3
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I had a 2012 Roo 19. First summer I pulled it with a Chevy Traverse rated for 5200 lbs towing. I figure the Roo weighed about 4000 lbs wet. Just the wife and I. I wasn't a happy camper. The V-6, 6-speed ran in 4th gear at ~3100 rpm at 60 mph. Any little incline would drop it into 3rd gear. It would rarely go into 5th. This was in the relatively flat midwest. If you have a V-8 in your Explorer, you may be better off, but who knows?

I bought a Silverado after that first year and I was a LOT happier. Even moved up to a Mini-Lite.

When you get to inspect the Roo 19 with the ends open, look very carefully for any signs of leakage around the doors. MOST (mine included) do not have leakage problems, but there are some folks who have had significant issues. If there's any signs of leakage, walk away.
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Check whether or not you need a weight distribution hitch, (i am guessing you do) and that adds about another 100 lbs to the cargo weight of the explorer.
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I second the weight distribution hitch if you try this. I would be very nervous that close to the weight limit with or without the weight distribution system. You'll add more cargo then you think you will ....


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Did a little research. You have about 1500 lbs cargo capacity. 500 lbs family. Probably 500 lbs loaded tongue weight. Get a weight distribution hitch and you should be fine.
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Old 04-17-2016, 09:43 AM   #7
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Thanks everybody for the feedback. Comments below.


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I had a 2012 Roo 19. First summer I pulled it with a Chevy Traverse rated for 5200 lbs towing. I figure the Roo weighed about 4000 lbs wet. Just the wife and I. I wasn't a happy camper. The V-6, 6-speed ran in 4th gear at ~3100 rpm at 60 mph. Any little incline would drop it into 3rd gear. It would rarely go into 5th. This was in the relatively flat midwest. If you have a V-8 in your Explorer, you may be better off, but who knows?

I bought a Silverado after that first year and I was a LOT happier. Even moved up to a Mini-Lite.

When you get to inspect the Roo 19 with the ends open, look very carefully for any signs of leakage around the doors. MOST (mine included) do not have leakage problems, but there are some folks who have had significant issues. If there's any signs of leakage, walk away.
Unfortunately the current gen explorers don't offer a v8. I'm in Illinois, so it's pretty flat around us.


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Check whether or not you need a weight distribution hitch, (i am guessing you do) and that adds about another 100 lbs to the cargo weight of the explorer.
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I second the weight distribution hitch if you try this. I would be very nervous that close to the weight limit with or without the weight distribution system. You'll add more cargo then you think you will ....


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That's something that was nice about this deal, it came with everything including a WDH.

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Did a little research. You have about 1500 lbs cargo capacity. 500 lbs family. Probably 500 lbs loaded tongue weight. Get a weight distribution hitch and you should be fine.
Thanks. Will have to decide what I want to do. My wife is due for a new car anyway. I could pay cash for the camper, have less for a down on a truck, but car interest rates a much lower than an rv interest rates.
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Old 04-17-2016, 12:08 PM   #8
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We have this setup - 2009 Roo 19 and 2011 Explorer with V6 and tow package. It will work, but you have to drive slow at times. We live in the mountains of British Columbia. I would have no concerns about this setup in the flatter areas around Illinois. .... watch for delamination in the Roo front bunk.


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I bought mine used. I had the seller meet me at a reputable service place and they inspected it top to bottom for me. I paid for the inspection, and the seller committed to fixing anything the dealer found - or adjust the price. Just make sure the inspection is done by a detail person that will document the inspection thoroughly.


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And I will shoot from the hip - Ford Explorer ain't going to cut it. Just cutting it too close weight wise.


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