Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-27-2016, 09:16 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 210
Use TV all the time to close slides with the truck running. No problem!
__________________

__________________
syogerst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2016, 09:31 AM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Waynesville
Posts: 12,005
Quote:
Originally Posted by rootree View Post
We will be dry camping at Mather Campground in the Grand Canyon. So I am preparing to ensure we are prepared. I will be installing new batteries (2) for additional amp hours. We really only plan to operate the refrigerator on propane and minimal other drain.

So in prepping setup today I wanted to manually operate the tongue jack (have power version) and slide out. I wanted to make sure everything would work manually and I understood the systems.

Tongue jack was no problem. I was able to insert crank and raise and lower the tongue jack.

Slide out was another story. I inserted the crank to manually extend the slide out. It would not turn and I ended up breaking a cotter pin on the extension that goes to the slide motor. I panicked as the slide then did not work via the control panel button. I replaced the extension and cotter pin and then the slide did operate under power.

So how do I manually extend and retract the slide? I am guessing my error was that the camper was plugged in to shore power. Perhaps it only works manually with no power (shore or battery)?

If I have to use power, what would be the drain to utilize the control panel to extend and retract the slide?

Thanks for your input!
When using the Motor and Switch you will hear the "Dreadful Noise" when at the Extreme "In or Out" position! Now when you use the "Hand Crank" you are going "Direct Drive" and you can at times Do Damage to Stops or Trim! I would say if you sheared the "Shear Pin" that is a Good thing,you were turning it the Wrong way! Gear slides need a CHARGED Battery or you can even Blow a Fuse also! Youroo!!
__________________

__________________
youroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2016, 12:35 PM   #13
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Texas
Posts: 31
Thanks for everyone's input

Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk
__________________
2016 Rockwood Roo 233S
2013 Ford F150 SuperCrew 3.5 EcoBoost
rootree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2016, 12:50 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
B and B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Wilmot Twp, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 8,602
Quote:
Originally Posted by jking46 View Post
Only going on past experience. It has worked for me when I forgot to use the battery disconnect and ended up with a dead battery.
X 2 Same here.
__________________
B and B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2016, 01:57 PM   #15
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 59
We always take the battery out before putting the trailer into winter storage and plugging my TV in has always worked for us too UNTIL this spring! I went to pick up the trailer and didn't bother bringing the battery as plugging into the truck has always worked. This time, nothing. I looked at all of the fuses and the electrical and everything looked fine. The tongue jack wouldn't make a peep though, and no electricity seemed to be getting to the trailer (no lights inside, nothing), although the signal and brake lights were still working. I spent a 1/2 hour fooling around with the truck running and plugged into the trailer before giving up and cranking the jack by hand. When I got home and tried it again, it suddenly worked! No idea why it wouldn't work before.

All this to say, try it at home to see if your TV will do it, but don't count on it working again later. I guess I should definitely learn how to put my slide in manually as well.
__________________
2010 Rockwood Roo 23RS
2015 F150 Lariat Supercrew 3.5l EcoBoost. Used to tow with 2006 F150 XLT Supercrew 5.4l V8. The EcoBoost is so much better!
DirtSquirt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2016, 06:49 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,721
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtSquirt View Post
We always take the battery out before putting the trailer into winter storage and plugging my TV in has always worked for us too UNTIL this spring! I went to pick up the trailer and didn't bother bringing the battery as plugging into the truck has always worked. This time, nothing. I looked at all of the fuses and the electrical and everything looked fine. The tongue jack wouldn't make a peep though, and no electricity seemed to be getting to the trailer (no lights inside, nothing), although the signal and brake lights were still working. I spent a 1/2 hour fooling around with the truck running and plugged into the trailer before giving up and cranking the jack by hand. When I got home and tried it again, it suddenly worked! No idea why it wouldn't work before.

All this to say, try it at home to see if your TV will do it, but don't count on it working again later. I guess I should definitely learn how to put my slide in manually as well.
So if I read this right, you're towing your trailer home without a battery. So if it jumps off the hitch on the way home, the emergency brakes aren't going to work, since there's no battery.

Stay away from my neighborhood, please.
__________________
1988 Coleman Sequoia - popup (1987-2009) - outlasted 3 Dodge Grand Caravans!
2012 Roo19 - hybrid (2012-2015)

2016 Mini Lite 2503S - tt (2015 - ???)
2011 Traverse LT, 3.6L, FWD
2009 Silverado 1500 Ext Cab, 5.3L, 4x4, 3.73
2016 Silverado 2500HD Dbl Cab, 6.0L 4x4, 4.10
rockfordroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2016, 07:36 PM   #17
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 59
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo View Post
So if I read this right, you're towing your trailer home without a battery. So if it jumps off the hitch on the way home, the emergency brakes aren't going to work, since there's no battery.

Stay away from my neighborhood, please.
Seriously? No need to be rude, you could have phrased that nicely in order to educate instead. How about "not having the battery in could be a safety issue if the trailer were ever to become detached from the tow vehicle". And then, you could explain exactly how that safety mechanism would work because I actually have no idea and hadn't thought about that possibility. Would you like to rephrase your response now in order to do so?

Secondly, how would the trailer jump off of the TV? The hitch is locked down on the ball, the receiver is locked into the TV, the sway bars connect the trailer to the hitch, and there are two chains that run from the truck to the trailer that are shorter than the cable that supplies the electricity to the trailer. So basically, the trailer would somehow have to become unhitched, both sway bars detach, and both chains snap before having no battery could become an issue. How much of a chance is there of that happening?
__________________
DirtSquirt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2016, 07:50 PM   #18
Senior Member
 
HONDAMAN174's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Big brown desert
Posts: 2,318
I recently had no power coming into trailer. TV had 12v and checked circuit breaker under the frame and that was good. Traced the 7-pin harness to a junction box and found a 30 fuse (blown) in a not nice to get to spot. I am removing the fuse and replacing with resettable fuse/breaker tonight.


2014 Evo 2850 "Woodstock"
2011 Toyota Tundra "Clifford"
__________________
2014 Stealth Evo 2850- "Woodstock"
2011 Toyota Tundra Rock Crawler TRD 5.7- "Clifford"
2013 Honda Accord Coupe V6 w/Track Pack- "Julia"

Just glad to get away
HONDAMAN174 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2016, 11:03 PM   #19
Moderators' Assistant
 
bikendan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Camano Island, Washington
Posts: 13,253
DirtSquirt, it's required by law to have battery power for the emergency brake, while towing.

Understand that you may not have known but shame on the dealer for not including that info during your PDI.
__________________
Dan-Retired Firefighter/EMT
Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
Equalizer WDH and Prodigy BC
bikendan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2016, 01:40 AM   #20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,721
Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan View Post
DirtSquirt, it's required by law to have battery power for the emergency brake, while towing.

Understand that you may not have known but shame on the dealer for not including that info during your PDI.
What Bikendan said.

You said, "We always take the battery out before putting the trailer into winter storage and plugging my TV in has always worked for us too UNTIL this spring!"

That sounded to me like you've been around the block a time or two. If no one has ever explained electric brakes to you, whoever sold you your trailer did you a great disservice. Or maybe you have a small popup without brakes - we don't know because you never said what you have (similar to another pet peeve of some folks on the forum - Describing RV with numbers/letters????).

Trailers over (usually) 3500 lbs are required to have brakes. These are almost always electric brakes, controlled by a controller in your tow vehicle, such as a Tekonsha Prodigy P3 (https://www.etrailer.com/Brake-Contr...sha/90195.html). The controller sends a varying voltage to the brakes depending on how hard you are braking. While the controller sends voltage to the brakes, there is also an emergency breakaway switch on the trailer. In addition to the hitch, those sway bars, and safety chains, you should have a mechanical breakaway cable (https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories...54-85-007.html) from this switch to your tow vehicle. If the trailer comes off the tow vehicle, the cable will pull a pin out of the switch. The switch will then apply full BATTERY voltage to the trailer brakes to help to stop it from going where ever it wants to go.

If trailers never came off tow vehicles, the gov't wouldn't require the emergency breakaway system.

So know you know what you need to know.

PS: I didn't think I was rude; I simply stated the facts as I thought I saw them (as it was possible I had them wrong) and asked you not to hang around my neighborhood. That was heart-felt. If you've really been hauling a TT around that has brakes but no battery, I don't want you near me. Sorry if you took it as rude; it wasn't meant to be; however my safety definitely felt threatened. If your dealer really didn't tell you any of this, HE's the guy you should be upset with. If you have a popup with no brakes, I wouldn't have said a thing if I had known it, but you never said what you have.
__________________

__________________
1988 Coleman Sequoia - popup (1987-2009) - outlasted 3 Dodge Grand Caravans!
2012 Roo19 - hybrid (2012-2015)

2016 Mini Lite 2503S - tt (2015 - ???)
2011 Traverse LT, 3.6L, FWD
2009 Silverado 1500 Ext Cab, 5.3L, 4x4, 3.73
2016 Silverado 2500HD Dbl Cab, 6.0L 4x4, 4.10
rockfordroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
manual, slide, slide out

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




ForestRiverForums.com is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:37 PM.