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Old 04-21-2015, 04:48 PM   #21
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1. Tons of counter space. It is really deceptive but there is a ton of counter behind the stove and sink.

The wife says there is 3X the counter compaired our old camper

2. Large bathroom with a lot of counter/shelf space. Again, we never had enough.

wait till you find the wasted space

7. It feels like virtually no wasted space. It is very short and reasonably light yet has every box checked on what we wanted.

just wait....
I found 2 big enough for the grandson to hide in.

8. As the previous poster indicated it is very usable when turtled.

only turtled up in our old one twice, looking forward to trying this one..

I'm working on designs to access some of the extra space
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Old 04-21-2015, 04:53 PM   #22
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Thank you for the info!! Do you ever actually turtle? I'm coming from the perspective of owning a tent trailer with a couch slide out. So we have never gone anywhere farther than a one day drive from California as we have two kids 10 and 8.
Never. Just us - you'll find plenty of people who do. But traveling with kids, we usually aim to stop by 4-5:00 in the afternoon and let the kids swim while we make dinner. No Walmart stops for us. That works for lots of people - you can find plenty of threads on here about that, but we always find a cg close to the highway for long trips. Only takes a few extra minutes.

We have gone 2800 miles on one trip with the Roo, but we bought an RV to enjoy the trip - after all its vacation. So when we traded our popup (also with the dinette slide) for the Roo, we went for the 23IKSS. Great kitchen and living space, but not designed to turtle.
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Old 04-21-2015, 06:30 PM   #23
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We've turtled a few times when we wanted to leave in the morning and knew it was going to rain overnight. Don't have to mess with wet canvas.
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Old 04-21-2015, 07:23 PM   #24
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Thank you for the info!! Do you ever actually turtle? I'm coming from the perspective of owning a tent trailer with a couch slide out. So we have never gone anywhere farther than a one day drive from California as we have two kids 10 and 8.
I haven't yet, but wouldn't, with kids. My plan to do so is only to allow traveling farther on a single day and getting on the road faster the next morning, to travel to a distant destination. With kids, I'd be like KMP44 and arrive earliy enough to give the kids something to look forward to. Otherwise, travel is an ordeal for them (and, therefore, for you) rather than fun.

Besides which, it would be hard to turtle in a 21DK with any kids older than preschool. There's only one available bed. Granted, the dinette bed is actually pretty large but it's not intended for the whole family.
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What is turtle, asking as not to seem stupid but never heard that term before


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It is a term made for hybrid trailers. This means that the bunk ends are left up/in for various reasons. It seems like a turtle in its shell. Hence the term ... 'turtling'.
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It is a term made for hybrid trailers. This means that the bunk ends are left up/in for various reasons. It seems like a turtle in its shell. Hence the term ... 'turtling'.
Yep, it's a term unique to hybrids.
By turtling, your hybrid becomes like any smaller TT that uses the dinette for a bed.
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AH so I will let the GF's daughter know she has to Turtle...lol


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Wikid1... I was about to ask what "turtling" was too. I can see some advantages when you just need to sleep and get going again in the morning, for those who do it would you still unhook and level the unit for the night? Or just climb in and get some sleep? I think personally I would only turtle if I was pulling over for the night to get to my destination
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... I can see some advantages when you just need to sleep and get going again in the morning, for those who do it would you still unhook and level the unit for the night? Or just climb in and get some sleep?
I haven't yet but, if I do, it would only be a brief overnight on a long haul. I wouldn't unhook anything, just climb out of the car and climb into bed. We'd probably make the bed in advance in anticipation of stopping just to sleep.
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