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Old 10-05-2015, 06:45 PM   #21
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hey Folks,


New on Forest River Forum,
My wife and I are happy to be the new owners of a 23WS. It should arrive next week to Maine from Michigan (can't find any Roo around here). We're anxious to see that thing on my front yard.
Funny how the kitchen counter is the same as our 2011 Palomino stampede S238.(Just sold it)
As for the entertainment center, it doesn't bother us. We mostly watch TV in the morning while sitting at the table.
That shower looks beautiful....and that closet in the rear room will be my first mod....Install shelves in there.
Pictures will be posted when I get it here


Happy to be part of this forum


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Old 10-05-2015, 08:22 PM   #22
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Welcome Dre!
I think you'll like this Forum better than the other one.

Your old 238 was Palomino's copy of the 23SS. That's why the kitchen is so similar.
If it had been around back in 2006 and a Palomino dealer had been anywhere close, we would've probably bought it instead of our 23SS.
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Old 10-06-2015, 04:30 AM   #23
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I'm happy to be part of this group Dan.
The next few weeks will be exciting for us.
I sold the Palomino with everything .......and now comes the time to do serious shopping starting with a WDH and an ADCO cover, and my wife Joline (who I call Joey) will take care of the interior.
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Old 10-26-2015, 09:08 AM   #24
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We have a 23WS on order.

The added baggage doors and larger bathroom / shower was what sold it. In 2012 the limited outside accessible storage on the 23SS was a deal breaker and we ended up with our current Keystone Passport 235EXP which I have on the market. The 23WS still does not have as much exterior accessible storage but they made it much better. At least enough that we can live with it once I remove, relocate, or rebuild all those cheap baffles they put everywhere which fall apart when you look at them. Simply running wiring and flex ducts and such a little neater would give you tons of additional storage space. Its typical and I'll have a busy spring.

I went and took a good look at a 23WS Shamrock prior to placing the order.

As far as the location of the TV and entertainment center it doesn't bother me, its fairly easy to relocate or add a TV just about anywhere you want one. I see 23SS owners comments about the pantry cabinet, and can understand that. But if you never had it to begin with and never had the time to get used to it, you don't miss things as much. We can sure live without it. Why they did not keep it above the side cab near the door makes me scratch my head? Designers

What we liked in addition to the shower / bathroom, was that even with the slides retracted you can still use / get to everything and even get to the rear bunk if needed. Its a little tight but it could be done. Plenty of other things to like, I forget what they were. We were not really looking for a new one but....................................

What I did not like was the use of caulking and trim. In our current trailer and our previous Aerolite hybrid not much of the wood colored or wallpaper covered trim was used. Everything fit to adjacent surfaces tight and caulking was then applied in very small and clean beads. Really sharp. Our counter top is fitted to the wall and has a 1/16 wide bead of clear silicone that you can hardly see. The Shamrock was caulked with a color that matched nothing, and the gap that was filled was over 1/4". It says "backsplash needed" to me. In the Shamrocks, probably 6 of differnt models, we looked at and pictures I look at online it seems there is no rhyme nor reason to the use of trim and caulk. The cabinet over the dinette has trim, to the right of that the cabinet with / over the fridge has caulk, the cabinet above the range trim. The radio / entertainment cabinet caulk. no consistency. Certainly not a deal breaker as I am a carpenter and mod fanatic. They should hire a couple people though who know how to use a caulk gun. Small cosmetic things like that I am not too concerned about. To this day I still find staples that need sunk and filled in our Passport.

I was impressed with the arrangement and neatness of the underneath and the layout there, the tanks and wiring all looked pretty good from the factory. I'll still do a once over in the spring

My only concern since reading in depth on this forum is the bunk doors. I have been reading recent posts about leaking doors, adding gutters, etc etc etc. Nothings perfect and I am not new to this dance, but I was under the impression that Forest River had worked out any door leak issues based on a few people I know in other forums with newer Roos. I am starting to have 2nd thoughts even though I have placed money down to order the 23WS. I'm sure hoping what I'm reading is the typical forum "the problems get hammered and the good does not get mentioned" syndrome. Other than a split caulk joint on one of the doors on our Aerolite, which was my fault for not noticing, the LCI securelock doors are almost bulletproof when it comes to leaks. Especially the versions since 2010. I sure hope I'm not making a mistake here. Maybe I should just stop reading posts about it? I had a bad aftertaste for a few years after some issues with a Palomino product, but decided I'd give Forest River a go again. My biggest concern is the bunk doors.

Anyway its ordered and I am told it most likely will be into the dealer sometime in December.
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:12 PM   #25
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Mr Havercamp has a lot to say but that's ok......I enjoyed reading your comment.
We are on our third hybrid, and I still don't see the day I will upgrade. We just love them.
I do agree with you about the way they apply caulking. I loved my previous hybrid which was a Palomino Stampede S-238, but the caulking job was badly done....bunch of amateurs!!
The Roo 23WS we just got is done much better......no complaint., and we simply LOVE IT!
The only problem we have now is wait six months before using it.
here are pics of our new 23WS:






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Old 10-26-2015, 05:26 PM   #26
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Drenjoey,


FR should hire you to take the brochure photos...nice shots!


Also welcome to the forums. Beautiful camper.
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I see they screwed up the furnace cold air return just like in my Micro Lite. WHY didn't they put the cold air return on the table side of the dinette????

I'll be moving mine one of these days.
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Dre.....nice trailer.....congrats....I agree with CNY that they should get you to take the brochure pictures.

Did you special order from the factory through a Michigan dealer or purchase one they had in stock and have them ship it to you?
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I see they screwed up the furnace cold air return just like in my Micro Lite. WHY didn't they put the cold air return on the table side of the dinette????

I'll be moving mine one of these days.

Why would they want to do that? It makes too much sense.

What is the purpose of the same type of grill panel on the front streetside nightstand cabinet, where I believe the water heater is located? And what are the 2 panels for under the oven? Are they used because they are handy and cheap, or because of equipment in those locations that needs ventilation? I can't figure out what equipment that would be. I am betting on cheap.


Dre.....any chance you could measure the outside box length from front bend to rear without bumper? And what does the bumper protrude. I should of done that before I ordered.
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Dre.....nice trailer.....congrats....I agree with CNY that they should get you to take the brochure pictures.

Did you special order from the factory through a Michigan dealer or purchase one they had in stock and have them ship it to you?
I purchased one they just received at Haylett in Michigan and had it delivered to Maine.....
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