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Old 10-27-2015, 04:35 AM   #31
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Dre.....any chance you could measure the outside box length from front bend to rear without bumper? And what does the bumper protrude. I should of done that before I ordered.
I will measure when I come back from work at 4:00pm.

BTW, there are four of these wood grilled panels in the 23ws. the one at the table is for the return, the one at the front cabinet is the water tank access, and the two below the stove.....I will have to investigate.

There is also that small cabinet beside the stove under the entertainment system that serve not much purpose except for the counter top. there is an access panel in front of it that I opened to find out a bundle of wires and hoses. I'm sure an handyman can possibly install a small drawer or a spice rack in there....the same goes for another panel right next to the stove. I have all winter to come up with ideas.

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Old 10-27-2015, 04:44 AM   #32
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I purchased one they just received at Haylett in Michigan and had it delivered to Maine.....

I hope they shipped it before the gold chain guy beat it up.
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Old 10-27-2015, 05:37 AM   #33
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No dents on the cabinet doors or the outside walls....... If there were, I would have made a special trip to Michigan...
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Old 10-27-2015, 04:20 PM   #34
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I just measured from the bend to the rear without the bumper and it is 21' 4"
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Old 10-27-2015, 08:19 PM   #35
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Dre, what size freshwater tank? According to the 2016 brochure they increased to 43 gallons. That could be a 43 gallon thank or a 37 gallon tank and 6 in the heater. Some of the ones on RV trader have a picture of the weight sticker and calculated out they are still indicating 30 gals.

What does your yellow water capacity sticker say?
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Old 10-29-2015, 07:33 PM   #36
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The water capacity sticker says......249 lbs maximum.....figure it out !!

I have to say I never fill or use that fresh water tank. We always camp where water and electricity are supplied.
One thing I noticed when I walked around the 23ws is there are no gutters over the bed doors !!!!.....hum !!!
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Old 10-29-2015, 07:57 PM   #37
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They haven't come with gutters over the bunks for several years. I did have my dealer install a set after hearing of potential problems. So far, no leaks after 2 years.
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Old 10-29-2015, 09:00 PM   #38
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The water capacity sticker says......249 lbs maximum.....figure it out !!
249 lbs = 30 Gallons.

So what have we learned?

The 2015 brochure and spec on the Rockwood website says water capacity 36 gallons.

Your sticker says 249 lbs, which is 30 gallons. If the water capacity is 36 gallons then the sticker is incorrect, as 36 gallons would weigh 300 lbs.

Or........the 2015 brochure / website is wrong and the tank is actually 24 gallons, that along with the 6 gallons in the water heater = 249lbs.

The 2016 brochure, which is not even available on the Rockwood website, does say water capacity 43 gallons. No 2016 specs are available on the Rockwood website. That could mean 43 gallon tank and 6 gallons in the water heater or 409 lbs, or 37 gallon tank and 6 gallon water heater which is 360 lbs. Yet your 2016 has a sticker that indicates 30 gallons by weight?

Then we need to consider the verbage on brochure and website.

"All information contained on this website is believed to be accurate at the time of publication. However, during the model year, it may be necessary to make revisions and Forest River, Inc. reserves the right to make changes without notice, including prices, colors, materials, equipment and specifications as well as the addition of new models and the discontinuance of models shown on this website. Therefore, please consult with your Forest River, Inc. dealer and confirm the existence of any material, design or specifications that are material to your purchase decision."

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"All specifications contained herein are based on the latest product information at time of printing.
Forest River reserves the right to make changes in colors, materials, equipment and specifications
at any time without notice and assumes no responsibility for any errors in this brochure. "

So what we have learned is..........................NOTHING or close to it.

The only way you will know the actual water capacity of your 2016 would be to either measure it out using water or measure the tank geometry, unless the tank is marked or stamped.

I have no clue what will be in my 2016 Roo which is ordered. I would assume at some point they will be using a larger tank than in a 2015 but who the hell knows? If that's the case they are probably going to use up any stock of the smaller tanks first. I guess I need to pester the hell out of the salesman and dealer about it tomorrow.

This is like going to the Chevy dealer and buying a truck but you're not allowed to know what motor you get until you sign on the line, then you pop the hood and see if you got the 4.3, 5.3, or 6.2 Surprise surprise surprise Sgt Carter !!

Stay tuned.
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:03 PM   #39
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I suspect that for most of us, unless all you do is boondock, the tank size isn't really going to be a deal breaker.
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:48 PM   #40
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I suspect that for most of us, unless all you do is boondock, the tank size isn't really going to be a deal breaker.
Possibly. We have many state parks here in PA that the only hook up is electric. The freshwater tank size can be a big deal when you are carrying aquatainers and refilling your tank mid week of a 10 night outing. I have done it many times. During a 10 night trip I will go through typically 70 gallons of fresh and dump the black and gray once each using the blue boy. And that is using the campground provided showers, not the trailer.

I hope they are increasing the tank size as that is the area where most hybrids have been lacking. On my current trailer, Keystone in their ultimate cheapness put a 24 gallon tank in, and advertised it as 30. You can not use the 6 gallons in the heater they included in that 30 without making note of it anywhere. I added another 20 gallon auxiliary tank. Aerolite (Dutchmen) has had it right for years, they have 52 gallon freshwater tanks. Jayco / Starcraft had some ridiculously low freshwater capacities on their hybrids but at least they disclosed that the unusable 6 gallons in the heater was part of the capacity . They recently started using larger tanks.

They build these with tanks so they are self contained. They install a 30 gallon black tank, and a 30 gallon gray tank. They should install at least a 50 gallon freshwater tank.
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