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Old 06-18-2014, 03:34 PM   #31
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We're thinking about buying one of these (or the 21ss). Downsizing from a MUCH larger trailer. Anything you could warn us about that you have to deal with, due to the size of the trailer? Things you just can't store in the trailer anywhere, design issues (just things you'd do different if you were designing), etc. ?

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If you are downsizing, the only thing I can think of that would be a real concern is the shower. Its not real functional for adults. And the grey water holding tank is on the small side, but that is easily corrected with a portable tank. Especially with the 23IKSS, you pretty well have the same features as many larger trailers, just in a smaller unit. There is a little extra setup with the bunks - but you also get the benefit of being able unzip the canvas in nice weather.
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Old 06-18-2014, 03:41 PM   #32
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you're downsizing from a bunkhouse model. are you sure that the 21SS or 23IKSS is a good idea, unless you no longer need the bunks anymore.
after all, both of these only offer the two RV queen beds, unless you choose to have to make up the dinette or sofa every nite.

second, seriously consider the pros and cons of the canvas ends, UNLESS you've had previous experience, like owning a popup.
most hybrid owners are former popup owners and move to the Gray Side, because they want less setup and more amenities BUT still want the canvas experience, even with the few cons.

if you've never had a trailer with canvas ends, you really need to look at whether you'll be able to deal with the issues that come with them.
many don't consider this and end up selling their new hybrid after one season.
Thank you. We went from tent to popup to 31ft trailer to 36ft trailer and I'm just very tired of the bigger trailer (and weight and and and). Just us and 2 little dogs and the occasional guest, so the lack of bunks doesn't bother me. Giving up the nice outdoor kitchen (built in) is a bigger loss. Storage is also a concern, as the current unit has very good storage (full through side to side up front and under the bed), so all the lawn chairs, propane, what-nots, all pack in there real easy. Looking forward to smaller towing size and definitely looking forward to canvas bedroom again.
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should I be concerned about all of the 'leakage' threads/comments in here? Are they hard to avoid on the front bunk in particular, or just a few folks with issues (which always happens on any topic) ?
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We lined all the cabinets and the drawers with that it does help and it comes right out for cleaning.
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should I be concerned about all of the 'leakage' threads/comments in here? Are they hard to avoid on the front bunk in particular, or just a few folks with issues (which always happens on any topic) ?
I'm into Season #3 - no leaks whatsoever at this point.
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Old 06-18-2014, 06:42 PM   #37
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We went to pickup our new IKSS and front bunk was all wet (puddles). We walked away from deal and purchased another one. This one seems dry so far (2 weeks). The first one's rubber seal didn't look straight across the top. It dipped in the center. Dealer said they would fix, but we decided to walk away from deal.

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Old 06-18-2014, 07:32 PM   #38
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should I be concerned about all of the 'leakage' threads/comments in here? Are they hard to avoid on the front bunk in particular, or just a few folks with issues (which always happens on any topic) ?
in my 8+ years of being a member of numerous Hybrid forums, IMHO it's the last one.
remember, many come to RV forums because they have issues or problems and are looking for help.

rare is it that someone comes to a RV forum to inform members that they DON'T have any issues or problems.
same thing goes for those who aren't having leakage issues. in the 7+ years we've owned our Roo 23SS, we've never had any leaks but i don't start threads bragging about it.
but i do state this, when there are threads claiming that all hybrids leak.
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X2! Also remember that Canvas ends will limit camping in Bear country (most prohibit them) With some Hybrids though you can still camp, you just have to stay "buttoned up."
again, you've posted the statement that "most prohibit them".
and again, i'm asking you to post which campgrounds you claim this is a policy at.

i've camped in Yosemite, Lake Tahoe, Glacier, Grand Tetons and Yellowstone.

out of all of those, only ONE campground had a permanent ban on soft-sided campers and that was Fishing Bridge CG in Yellowstone.
all the other areas allowed soft-sided campers.
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