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Old 02-27-2014, 06:16 PM   #1
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Hello all. New to this forum and new to Hybrids. My wife and I just closed a deal today on a 2014 Roo19. We did the popup thing for 5 years and while we enjoyed it and made many great memories, I am looking forward to less set-up and take-down work that the Hybrid should provide. This is our first TT of any kind so it will be a learning experience for us. I am a very mechanically inclined person, so I think I will be able to figure most stuff out but appreciate any advice from more experienced Roo owners. Couple questions right off the top...
1. I've read about water leaks from the bulkheads...is this common, or more related to earlier models?
2. I have to decide before our scheduled pickup day if the extended warranty is worth buying or not. It's $2500 extra for a total of 7 years of coverage, but still $2500 is not chump change.
3. We do mostly remote camping with no hookups, so is it worthwhile to have dual 6 volt batteries instead of the single 12 volt?

Thanks for any insight. I'm sure I will have more questions later.

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Old 02-27-2014, 06:29 PM   #2
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I had a leak, FR fixed the bunk end and seals and I'm once again a happy camper. I can't help with the other questions, but welcome and congrats on your purchase!
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:40 PM   #3
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Couple questions right off the top...
1. I've read about water leaks from the bulkheads...is this common, or more related to earlier models? this has been an evolving issue since hybrids first came out. my '07 Roo has never had any such leaks. but FR has tweaked the seal/hinge setup over the years, as has other hybrid manufacturers. the current setup with the pre-attached canvas system, has probably been the best so far, with much less complaints. but remember a lot of leak issues were due to poor seal maintenence or improper canvas storage which allowed canvas to get trapped between the seals.
2. I have to decide before our scheduled pickup day if the extended warranty is worth buying or not. It's $2500 extra for a total of 7 years of coverage, but still $2500 is not chump change. neither i or most RV owners, are fans of 3rd party extended warranties. your dealer probably "failed" to mention that you can get a 2nd year factory warranty for only $150, which is what nearly all of us buy instead. dealers make commissions on the 3rd party ones and not the FR 2nd year one, therefore they "forget" to mention it.
3. We do mostly remote camping with no hookups, so is it worthwhile to have dual 6 volt batteries instead of the single 12 volt? we are the same, nearly dry camp all the time. we went with the two 12v deep cycle because the 12v are cheaper and if one goes bad, you can still have power, whereas the 6v golf cart batteries are better but they cost more and if one goes bad, you have no power. but they'll last much longer than the 12v ones.
we also have a Honda 2000 and a 400w inverter connected directly to the batteries.
welcome to FRF and the "Roo Kroo"!!
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:42 PM   #4
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We have a 2013 Roo 183. We have had no leaks around the bunk doors (I think that's what you meant by bulkheads). When closing up for home I always wipe the dirt off the seals and mating surfaces with a damp cloth and also clean the seals with a silicone based cleaner 2 or 3 times a season (owners manual). Also be mindful of not getting the canvas pinched in the door seal which allows water to enter.

We don't dry camp often but I'm not sure how 2 6-volt batteries is necessarily better than 1 12-volt. Its all about amp-hours. I know there are different classes of deep cycle batteries but I will let others chime in on that.

I hear that Forest River offers a 2nd year warranty for a pittance but apparently you have to be savvy enough to ask for it. We were not that savvy. If your dealer balks then call FR directly. The dealer would rather sell the $2500 plan. Most of the major components are warrantied by their OEMs for longer than one year so you can deal with them directly if a big problem arrises. I tend to fix the small stuff myself and stay away from extended warranties on everything but that is just me. If they are making money then someone else is losing.

We really like our Roo and I'm sure you will too. Welcome to the forum.

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Old 02-27-2014, 07:05 PM   #5
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I have a 2012 Roo19 after 20 yrs with a Coleman Sequoia popup. We've been thru 2 seasons, no leaks (it has the permanently attached canvas, but the old closing latches - some folks have stated the new latch system is kind of cheap and may not last long). I had no idea about the 2nd yr warranty until I read it here on the forum; however, as I'm now at 2 years, I know it would have ended up being a waste of $150. We don't dry camp much, so I can't comment on the battery situation.

I've only had 2 problems: a cabinet latch that was off-kilter (a minute or two with a screwdriver) and the water bypass valve failed to close and began leaking the first time out last year - $11 for a new valve and a couple of hose clamps. Had to fix myself as I was at the campground and wanted to camp.
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:10 PM   #6
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Thanks for the heads up on the 2nd year warrantee that should be available. I will ask about it on pick up day. Definitely better route to go than 3rd party pricey extended warrantee. Also, regarding the "new" style latching system...ya, I noticed it right away and was immediately concerned and disappointed. The new latches don't look nearly as strong and dependable as the old style. I guess if they break or fail I will see about retrofitting the old style. Another question...
Have any of you lifted the chassis of the trailer to gain more clearance underneath? I did a spring over axle modification on my tent trailer to enable me to get into rougher more remote terrain and I wouldn't mind a bit more clearance under this Roo, but I've never dealt with this TorFlex axle system. Is there a simple way to get more clearance with these axles?
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:12 PM   #7
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Out of curiosity, what are you towing it with?

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We haven't picked up our Roo yet either. But like the price of the Roo the extended warranty price is not set in stone.
We have been quoted $1895 for 7 year Star Diamond extended warranty thru Interstate StarRV. Not sure who the warranty company is for you.
Might be worth talking them down some.
Congrats!!!! And happy camping!
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Old 02-27-2014, 10:14 PM   #9
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the only way i know of, to get more clearance with a TorFlex, is to have spacers put or welded in between the frame and the axles.
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Warranty - I wouldn't buy the extended warrenty for $2500. I would save that money because its doubtfull you will have problems to fix that cost that much (usually). Most major issues (if there are any) would be discovered under warrenty in the first year.

Batteries - Two 6-volt batteries in series vs. two 12-volt batteries in parallel can provide the same capacity (just make sure to find the deep-cycle 12-volt).

6-volts have been generally golf cart or industrial machine batteries, which were designed to be more heavy duty (e.g., thicker plates) and be drawn-down repeatedly (hence the term "deep-cycle").

Be carefull when choosing a 12-volt, though. Most 12-volts that are available are essentially 12-volt starting batteries or dual purpose Marine batteries, which are not comparable to the 6-volts.

However, there are quality deep-cycle 12-volt batteries (not marine though) that will be the same quality as 6-volts. Those "true deep-cycle" 12 volts (for lack of a better phrase) can be just as good. Here's a list of Trojans.

But then the weight, cost and size of that 12-volt battery can be an issue. When I was looking almost four years ago at 12-volt vs 6-volt, I couldn't find comparable 12-volts that would fit on my trailer tongue. I opted for two Trojan T-145 6-volts because that was the largest I could get and still fit my battery tray.

These have 260Ah at the 20-hr rate and the closest 12-volt were two Trojan T-1260's. The problem was each added 2 1/2" in length and the combined 5" was too much. Also, they added 24 more lbs and more expensive.

I would have definitely considered the T-1260's if they fit but I didn't want to mod up the tray and the extra weight is a concern.
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