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Old 07-24-2015, 08:34 PM   #1
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New Shamrock, a few questions

Hi all, first post here.

I am looking to purchase a Shamrock. I believe it is a 2003. It is a 21 foot. (this is all from a craiglist ad).

First of all what do I need to look for other than the obvious, soft spots in the floors and walls, wrinkled flooring, bald tires, etc. Problem areas?

And secondly, the owner sent me some pics of the bunk ends and they are destroyed by mice. There are multiple holes. I fear that they both need complete replacement. Is this something that I can do? I am a fairly handy person.

Finally, A full size Ford Expedition with tow package should have no trouble pulling this rig, right?

I am new to campers and appreciate any help. Thank you.
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Old 07-24-2015, 08:43 PM   #2
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Others have replaced the tents, but I think it's run them $600+. They have done it themselves. Check this thread:

New Canvas Replacements

With respect to your tow vehicle: You should post more info than what you did. (See my sig below). Someone with something similar will probably give you some advice. And be careful: not all Explorers (or Silverados) are created equal. What's the tow capacity? What's the payload? Etc. Try to find the owners manual if you don't already have it and see what it says (e.g., my Silverado manual lists 99 different versions of the 1500, with tow capacity ranging from about 4,000 lbs up to 11,000 lbs depending on engine, transmission, cooling, etc.).

Regarding what to look for, here's a thread asking a similar question:

Roo/Shamrock New Owner Wannabe!
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Old 07-24-2015, 08:49 PM   #3
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Others have replaced the tents, but I think it's run them $600+. They have done it themselves. Check this thread:

New Canvas Replacements

With respect to your tow vehicle: You should post more info than what you did. (See my sig below). Someone with something similar will probably give you some advice. And be careful: not all Explorers (or Silverados) are created equal. What's the tow capacity? What's the payload? Etc. Try to find the owners manual if you don't already have it and see what it says (e.g., my Silverado manual lists 99 different versions of the 1500, with tow capacity ranging from about 4,000 lbs up to 11,000 lbs depending on engine, transmission, cooling, etc.).

Regarding what to look for, here's a thread asking a similar question:

Roo/Shamrock New Owner Wannabe!
Thanks! I just quickly googled an 07 Expedition with tow package and the same motor and it appears I have a 9200 lb tow capacity. I have not looked at my door jamb or anything. guess I should go do that.
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Old 07-24-2015, 09:42 PM   #4
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The main area to examine VERY closely, are the bunk door areas. Hinge area, seals and door edges are the most common problem areas.

You should be able to get replacement tent ends from Bear Creek Canvas or CanvasReplacements.com
If you're handy, you should be able to do it yourself.
Make sure you remember how you removed them.
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Just because the tires are not bald does not mean they are good... RV tires rot before they wear out... many RV people buy new tires every 15-30,000 miles or 4-6 years whichever comes first. Some do not, but all of us hate to sit by the roadside changing a flat because of an old tire that "looked" good.

IMO I would just figure on spending somewhere around $6-800 on new tires unless the seller can prove he just bought them in the last 2 or 3 years AND they are the RIGHT size and LOAD capacity for that trailer.

Take a ladder to get up on that roof and go over it with a fine tooth comb looking for any sign of water intrusion or trouble spots in the caulking. Be prepared to crawl under and look at the floor with a good flashlight and poke and prod looking for soft spots or signs of damaged/repaired areas.

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Thanks everyone.
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I would be very wary of a hybrid that old. We took excellent care of our 2010 Shamrock 23SS. Cleaned and waxed regularly, seals checked and redone. It still smelled new as we never cooked in it. It towed behind our Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 hemi with ease, but... our bunk ends delaminated. We replaced them (doors supplied free from Forest River) but felt that it would happen again. We replaced it with another Forest River trailer and so far loving it. As others advised, check it out carefully.
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Thanks for all of your replies.

I ended up not getting that one, I got a 2008 Roo. It is the smaller 17 foot model but seems like it has all of the upgrades. The Expedition pulled it just fine on the two hour ride home. It needs a few more things to be perfect, but seems like it has been well taken care of. I am sure I will have lots more questions.
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Thanks for all of your replies.

I ended up not getting that one, I got a 2008 Roo. It is the smaller 17 foot model but seems like it has all of the upgrades. The Expedition pulled it just fine on the two hour ride home. It needs a few more things to be perfect, but seems like it has been well taken care of. I am sure I will have lots more questions.
Welcome to the forum and the "Roo crew". There's alot of folks here eager to help you. Fire away!
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:50 AM   #10
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Ok, a few more questions.

The awning has a small tear, right at the point where it attaches to the camper. I fear that this will separate later in life as we use the awning more. Is there a repair that people use on these?

Also, how do I light the pilot light in the oven?

Everything seems to work so far, but being new to campers is there a thread that will talk about the various tanks? I am clueless on sanitizing water tank, and the differences in gray/black water and what to do to them as far as chemicals to add, etc.

Thanks for all of your help.
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