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Old 06-26-2013, 02:27 PM   #1
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Question Newbie Looking at Roo 233S for BIG family!

Hi All! I'm poking around your forum as DH and I love the Roo 233S and are taking the kiddos back tomorrow to the dealership to see if we all fit comfortably - we have 5 kids (20, 17, 14, and twins 11) and we are all tall folks. I hope that we can make it work as I'm not sure we could pull much more with our 2007 Suburban 1/2 ton family truckster

Any things to look for or advice/opinions when we go back to the dealer? Your help as experts is greatly appreciated!

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Old 06-26-2013, 02:59 PM   #2
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That's not big, it's NORMAL! I have a 233s, my kids are 11, 10, 8, almost 6, and 3. And I have an 07 1/2 ton Suburban LTZ. It works. I just try to pack as light as possible, I don't haul water, and on long trips, I don't haul much food. My 11 year old is going to attempt to sleep in a small tent next week - we'll see how long that lasts! LOL
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:32 PM   #3
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Glad to hear you are comfortable in your Roo! We hope to make our choice soon after we give it a trial fit

Your 11 yo should do great in a tent! My kids have all slept in tents by themselves since they were about 8 or so - they love it! In fact, one of the things they said when we were talking about graduating from our 12-man tent to this Roo was "Can we still sleep out in the tents while you and dad sleep in the trailer!" LOL

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Old 06-26-2013, 09:35 PM   #4
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Hi All! I'm poking around your forum as DH and I love the Roo 233S and are taking the kiddos back tomorrow to the dealership to see if we all fit comfortably - we have 5 kids (20, 17, 14, and twins 11) and we are all tall folks. I hope that we can make it work as I'm not sure we could pull much more with our 2007 Suburban 1/2 ton family truckster

Any things to look for or advice/opinions when we go back to the dealer? Your help as experts is greatly appreciated!

Mom

Sounds like you already have prioritized your wish list - starting with the 3 beds. Check out the other key features - kitchen, bathroom, storage ...and look at things like the construction and warranty, and of course the decision as to whether the hybrid is the right choice for you. Obviously around here you would get a lot of positive opinions on the Roo.

And being 6'8", I would say the Roo is fine for tall folks. I find the curved roof and the true 80" long queen beds big advantages. Forget about the shower though. And having camped with 3 boys sending everyone to the campground shower is a much better option for a lot of reasons. The camper shower is great for the little ones - everyone else walks to the shower! And the extra tent was always good for the older kids - they never minded sleeping on the ground to have their own space (except for a couple bear encounters - but that makes for some good stories).

Good luck in your search. The whole upgrading from tenting is a great experience.
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Be sure to understand what storage the 233S has and how you can make that work.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:11 AM   #6
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Two Suggestions...

1) Pay the extra $$$ for the air matress sleeper sofa (if its offered in the 233s). That would give you a total of 4 queen beds. I got it in my 21SSL and there has been a couple times that I needed the extra sleeping space.

2) DO NOT ACCEPT THE FIRST TWO PRICES FROM THE DEALER. I find that there will almost always give you a third price. It will be lower In fact I suggest you decide on all your options, and get a quote from a couple of on line dealers (RVWholesalers, RVdirect, etc) to use as a basis for what to pay. I did that and wound up buying from RVW, but even if you go with a local dealer, you will be suprised how much room there is to negotiate

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I hope that we can make it work as I'm not sure we could pull much more with our 2007 Suburban 1/2 ton family truckster
Warning, I've been called the "weight police" as I believe in sticking within a vehicles ratings. Some choose to exceed some or all of their ratings and still feel it's safe. You have to decide for yourself.

That said, do some or all 7 of you ride in the suburban? What kind of payload does it have after you're all loaded up and your stuff is in the suburban? Would you ever consider getting it weighed to find out?
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:46 PM   #8
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Lots of great advice/things to consider - thanks everyone! I did get an online quote from RVW that was a bit lower than the dealer price - gives me some haggling room

I knew the weight police would find me! That has been our limiting factor in choosing a step up from our tent - the 1/2-ton Suburban. We are a heavy load when all 7 of us are in there - just the passengers and DH driving we have a payload of 1055 lbs. Having said that, we do have the towing package with the extra trans cooler and heavy-duty shocks - still waiting on the build sheet from the dealer to see exactly what the rear gear ratio is, either the 3:73 or 4:10. It seemed like with the WD hitch and electronic braking system we should be okay.

Interestingly, the salesman (who is very nice) is perfectly willing to sell us this Roo knowing our truck and family size, and of course told me that we would be "way under the weight limitations with the Roo." I knew going in that they would tell us anything to sell one. However, when I mentioned space/sleeping issue concerns he was MORE than happy to show us a Keystone Cougar 28RBS, coming in at 32 feet long and 6400 lbs. DRY! He took us through that baby eagerly and again told us that there would be NO PROBLEM with our 1/2-ton Suburban pulling it - we wouldn't even notice the weight! Now, we are relatively green in the whole trailering department, but I really didn't feel comfortable when I started running the numbers on that puppy - GVWR on it comes in around 8200 with a 960-lb. tongue weight. I have a 1000-lb. limit on the tongue if we use the WD hitch, not to mention the loaded weight of the trailer plus the loaded weight of the truck puts us over GCWR by about 2000 pounds. Why would he try and sell us something that wouldn't be safe to tow? Crazy - or maybe not, like I said we are new to this, but it seems like too much for us.
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Ha! I'm one of the non-violent weight police types. Basically, I want to educate folks and then let you make your choice one way or another. I'm really surprised that you have 1,000 pounds left over after all of you are loaded into the 'burb. But, there's a reason everyone loved them!

As for the salesman- there are 3 possibilities:
1) He's uneducated and simply doesn't know better. He possibly was selling microwaves last week.

2) He's educated enough to go by rough numbers. "A suburban can tow 7,000 pounds and this camper is under that, therefore it must be OK."

3) He's sleazy and doesn't care- he just wants to make the sale, customer be danged.

Hard to tell. I'd rather go in knowing exactly what I need and how to do the math. My truck dealer was shocked when I was able to tell him my expected pin weight, likely cargo weight and how much payload we needed (he actually tried talking me into less truck until I started down that path). He agreed that, by the numbers, we needed what we bought.
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Don't know about his 23IKSS, but my Roo19 has "RV queens," i.e., 60 x 72. They are NOT 80 inches, even though the brochure says they are.
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