Rockwood Roo 23WS - Page 2

delaware dave · 05-27-2016, 10:41 PM

Not sure if you got my earlier post. My Frontier has a 6500 towing capacity (some sites say 6400) and a hitch weight capacity of 650 lbs. (some say 630 lbs)
The Roo 23ws weights under 5000 lbs with a tongue weight of 500 lbs. I think I will be OK
Thanks for your posting
Delaware David

GalsofEscape · 05-28-2016, 03:51 AM

You are looking at dry weights. Always look at loaded weights when assessing capacity. The gvwr weight of the 23ws is about 6200 lbs.
Depending on how much stuff you bring, you may be close to the maximum weights for the frontier. Just something to think about.
I guess we are light packers, I usually see guestimates that a family of 4 adds about 1000lbs of stuff. I have taken the camper loaded up to the scales, we only added about 500 lbs of stuff to the camper so we are running about 5200 lbs. with water tank empty. and as I already stated, the loaded tongue weight is at 640 lbs. you may need to be mindful of what and how you pack.
The 23ws is nice as most of the storage is behind and over the axles.
The other thing to consider is the cargo capacity of the frontier. Check on that number as the tongue weight does eat into that capacity and may limit what you should put in the truck (like people).
I did all the checking on these weights before I before I settled on which camper to get. Ruled out few other camper types before settling on this one.

jking46 · 05-28-2016, 05:23 AM

Looked up specs for your Frontier. Max towing 6500..max payload 1470. Max payload is everything you put in the Nissan, front and back, and includes the tongue weight of the camper. So, taking payload of 1470, subtracting tongue weight of 640, leaves you 830 lbs for passengers, gear, firewood etc. Sounds very doable.
However, max towing does not take into consideration the frontal area of the camper and the huge amount of drag it generates. There is a big, big difference between pulling a flatbed trailer loaded to 6500 lbs and a flat front camper loaded to the same weight. Your v6 will not generate the horsepower needed to comfortably pull the Roo.
One caveat would be the terrain you are driving and the distance of your trip. If your trip is relatively short and flat, you could try it. However , hills of any size, and mountains for sure, will be a real problem.
I predict a new tow vehicle in your future.

**bikendan** · 05-28-2016, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jking46

I predict a new tow vehicle in your future.

x2!

delaware dave · 05-28-2016, 05:06 PM

Thanks for all of the good feedback. I do plan a new tow vehicle in my future, but have to pay for the trailer first. Delaware is flat and I don't drive fast. We'll see how all the towing goes.

Happy Camping.

Delaware Dave

jking46 · 05-28-2016, 05:43 PM

Good luck

rockfordroo · 05-28-2016, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by delaware dave

Thanks for all of the good feedback. I do plan a new tow vehicle in my future, but have to pay for the trailer first. Delaware is flat and I don't drive fast. We'll see how all the towing goes.

Happy Camping.

Delaware Dave

Dave, you don't get to the north end much, do you?

Maman325 · 08-10-2016, 02:55 PM

New to this forum (and to RV'ing in general!), we just ordered our 23WS and are very excited. I noticed that our trade for the wardrobe is a lack of kitchen pantry/storage space. Anybody with a 23WS care to share whether this has been a problem for you? Or any modifications/solutions you may have found for it? Considering using 1/3 of the wardrobe as a pantry and putting some shelves in (while I love the storage space the wardrobe offers, I'm not sure I see a need for a hanging wardrobe for us...).

Thanks!!!

Drenjoey · 08-10-2016, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Maman325

New to this forum (and to RV'ing in general!), we just ordered our 23WS and are very excited. I noticed that our trade for the wardrobe is a lack of kitchen pantry/storage space. Anybody with a 23WS care to share whether this has been a problem for you? Or any modifications/solutions you may have found for it? Considering using 1/3 of the wardrobe as a pantry and putting some shelves in (while I love the storage space the wardrobe offers, I'm not sure I see a need for a hanging wardrobe for us...).

Thanks!!!

You figured out the solution for a pantry........We did the same and it works just fine !
We're camping.....Like you, no need for a hanging pole !

joinco70 · 08-10-2016, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Maman325

New to this forum (and to RV'ing in general!), we just ordered our 23WS and are very excited. I noticed that our trade for the wardrobe is a lack of kitchen pantry/storage space. Anybody with a 23WS care to share whether this has been a problem for you? Or any modifications/solutions you may have found for it? Considering using 1/3 of the wardrobe as a pantry and putting some shelves in (while I love the storage space the wardrobe offers, I'm not sure I see a need for a hanging wardrobe for us...).

Thanks!!!

That's what we did. We flipped the door on the left so that it opens toward the kitchen and added shelves. We each put our clothes in a basket. Still need to get some sort of bars to keep food from falling out on bumpy roads. Other than that, it works great.

Maman325 · 08-10-2016, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by joinco70

That's what we did. We flipped the door on the left so that it opens toward the kitchen and added shelves. We each put our clothes in a basket. Still need to get some sort of bars to keep food from falling out on bumpy roads. Other than that, it works great.

Love that!!! Thanks for sharing! :-)

delaware dave · 08-11-2016, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Maman325

New to this forum (and to RV'ing in general!), we just ordered our 23WS and are very excited. I noticed that our trade for the wardrobe is a lack of kitchen pantry/storage space. Anybody with a 23WS care to share whether this has been a problem for you? Or any modifications/solutions you may have found for it? Considering using 1/3 of the wardrobe as a pantry and putting some shelves in (while I love the storage space the wardrobe offers, I'm not sure I see a need for a hanging wardrobe for us...).

Thanks!!!

Glad to hear you are finally getting a new TT. I plan to order my Roo23WS next week. Will pick it up in Indiana in October; can't wait. I see someone already showed you what they did to their wardrobe. (shelves) I plan to do the same thing to mine. Let me know how it goes and how you enjoy your new Roo. I can't wait to give mine a try.

delaware dave · 08-11-2016, 05:16 PM

I really like what you did to your wardrobe. I am ordering my Roo23WS next week and want to do the same thing. Where did you get your shelving and baskets?

Maman325 · 08-30-2016, 09:16 PM

We got a call from the dealer last week letting us know that, since we placed our order, they had changed the floorplan in the 23WS - and I was NOT on board w/the new floorplan (U-shaped dinette is now a regular dinette, kitchen moved over to the other side, so the sofa & dinette now on the slide, etc.). So we took another look at the other models we'd been considering (the 233s and 23IKSS), and as it turns out, while we originally disregarded the 23IKSS (I didn't like that the sofa was across from the island instead of the dinette, and that the t.v. kind of stuck out as you went in the door), they were changing that floorplan, too. So...we ended up liking the new 23IKSS floorplan even more, and changed our order. We'll have to wait longer, but hopefully it'll be worth it. Still won't have that u-shaped dinette or a separate back bunk w/changing area, but am a little pumped for the extra kitchen storage. :-)

Mainframe · 08-30-2016, 09:36 PM

Wow that is crazy! I thought the 23ws floorpan was really nice, I will have to see one of the new ones to make an opinion about it, shame to lose the U dinette, probably less trouble to build and maintain a slide with just a dinette and sofa, although I like them being opposite each other so you can have a conversation with people and see them while talking.

Interesting move, I would love to see a video walkthrough, can't imagine liking it more than my 2016 though

Shamrockthecasbah · 08-30-2016, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Maman325

We got a call from the dealer last week letting us know that, since we placed our order, they had changed the floorplan in the 23WS - and I was NOT on board w/the new floorplan (U-shaped dinette is now a regular dinette, kitchen moved over to the other side, so the sofa & dinette now on the slide, etc.). So we took another look at the other models we'd been considering (the 233s and 23IKSS), and as it turns out, while we originally disregarded the 23IKSS (I didn't like that the sofa was across from the island instead of the dinette, and that the t.v. kind of stuck out as you went in the door), they were changing that floorplan, too. So...we ended up liking the new 23IKSS floorplan even more, and changed our order. We'll have to wait longer, but hopefully it'll be worth it. Still won't have that u-shaped dinette or a separate back bunk w/changing area, but am a little pumped for the extra kitchen storage. :-)

Do you have a link that shows the latest 23WS and 23IKSS changes? We seriously considered the 23WS before we bought our 2017 23IKSS.

Maman325 · 08-31-2016, 12:38 PM

Let me see if I can figure out how to upload attachments - I have the new floorplans in pdf. Here's a quick summary:

23WS - kitchen moved to entry side (appears to be not as deep), with ent center by door. Slide now has sofa & regular dinette.

23IKSS - dinette moved over to be across from kitchen island (I think older models had this setup?) with sofa closer to door/front bunk. Where the entertainment center is now, there will be a "coat closet" and the entertainment center is now to the left of the door when you walk in where there is currently a "pantry." Except for the coat closet/ent center change - it looks like a move back to the older plan?

Sounds like this is a fresh change - just starting to build w/the new floorplans this week. I have yet to see any info on these outside of my conversations w/the dealer based on info they got from Forest River...I would love to see pics, but may have to wait to see ours live!

1996alnl · 09-06-2016, 02:08 AM

Very interesting floor plan on the 23WS. We are thinking of purchasing a new 21SS because of the open space, but like the counter space of the older 23WS.
However the new floor plan on the WS looks to be more open and appears to still have more counter space than the 21SS.
Interesting.
I wish there was some pics..probably too soon.

Lonestar1836 · 09-06-2016, 08:33 AM

If you like open floor plan of the 21SS take look at the 233S. Just traded in June. 233S floor plan is awesome.

CNYCamper · 09-06-2016, 09:11 AM

[QUOTE=Maman325;1305571]Let me see if I can figure out how to upload attachments - I have the new floorplans in pdf. Here's a quick summary:

23IKSS - dinette moved over to be across from kitchen island (I think older models had this setup?) with sofa closer to door/front bunk. Where the entertainment center is now, there will be a "coat closet" and the entertainment center is now to the left of the door when you walk in where there is currently a "pantry." Except for the coat closet/ent center change - it looks like a move back to the older plan?

The entertainment center will now be where it is in my 2015 model. Different from mine is the coat closet (seems like a good idea) and mine has the old style shower (with curtain).
It did not make sense to me when they moved the sofa to opposite the island. Having the dinette opposite the island allows the island to work as a serving area for meals. Glad they went back to this.

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