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07-22-2015, 10:12 AM
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roo 233s and a generator
HELP. We have a 2015 233s and a Yamaha 2000 Generator. We were told that the generator should power everything except the air conditioner and the microwave. We tried to use it this weekend. Originally so I could make a cup of coffee but it wouldn't work. Then we went to turn on the generator to charge the batteries. The 1st time, we had to turn off the fridge (which was turned on to run off gas). If the fridge was on it was shut down (overloading) the generator. The next time we turned the generator on to charge the battery, my husband left the fridge on but turned of the hot water heater. I am so confused. There was NOTHING plugged into any of the outlets. Why won't the generator work? I told my hubby that I would check with you guys before he goes to the dealership.
any advise would be greatly appreciated.
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07-22-2015, 12:51 PM
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Site Team
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It should power everything except the a/c.
My Honda 2000 runs everything, including the a/c at low elevation.
Sounds more like something wrong with the Yamaha.
Or the battery is so low, it's drawing too much of the Yamaha's power for recharge.
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07-23-2015, 02:25 PM
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Junior Member
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Yup, my Honda 2000 powers everything as well.
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07-23-2015, 02:31 PM
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A Coffee maker and the W/H plus the Converter charging the Batt is a (Load) on a (2000)! Plus Maybe the Heated Matt were ON? Youroo!!
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07-23-2015, 03:51 PM
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Take The Road Less Travld
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I assume the overload light is coming on. This may be caused by the refrigerator auto switching to AC power once the generator is kicked on. Make sure the gas button is pressed and not the auto. If you do not have a gas button, you will need to unplug the fridge from the outside compartment access.
Keep in mind that your water heater has an electric switch on the outside that if on will use electricity to heat your water. Once power is plugged in, this will automatically come on. make sure the switch is off.
And as YouRoo mentioned, make sure bed mattress heaters are not plugged in.
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07-24-2015, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cropper127
HELP. We have a 2015 233s and a Yamaha 2000 Generator. We were told that the generator should power everything except the air conditioner and the microwave. We tried to use it this weekend. Originally so I could make a cup of coffee but it wouldn't work. Then we went to turn on the generator to charge the batteries. The 1st time, we had to turn off the fridge (which was turned on to run off gas). If the fridge was on it was shut down (overloading) the generator. The next time we turned the generator on to charge the battery, my husband left the fridge on but turned of the hot water heater. I am so confused. There was NOTHING plugged into any of the outlets. Why won't the generator work? I told my hubby that I would check with you guys before he goes to the dealership.
any advise would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi Jeff and Michelle,
I have a Yamaha EF2400iSHC and when it has been overloaded the motor must be turned off completely to reset the AC outlet. Just make sure you have the "on/off" button in the right position when starting it again.
On my RV the fridge will default to Electric if it is on Auto. Switch fridge to Gas to avoid this prior to running your gen set.
Further on my unit, if the power (AC) button (mine is on the outside of the RV by the hot-water heater with a safety pin through it) is in the "on" position, it also will default to AC power when you plug your generator in. Turn it to off position.
When the system is over loaded some or all of your GFI breakers may have to be reset. In my RV the GFI (if you have one) is right on the plug in, two small buttons. Could also be on the the breaker panel. I have one in the bath room and one in the kitchen area.
Good luck,
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07-24-2015, 01:50 PM
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Senior Member
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I have a pair of Yamaha EF2000iS generators. I usually don't need the A/C, so I run just one of the generators and it works just fine. I force my refrigerator to gas and keep my water heater on gas so the only load on the generator is the converter (charging the batteries and powering the lights, etc.) and either the coffee pot or microwave (but not both at the same time). I don't think it makes sense to run the refrigerator or water heater from the generator so they stay on LP except when on shore power.
You should be able to run the microwave or the drip coffee pot with your generator. I imagine that there could be a problem if your converter was charging a low battery while trying to supply power to the coffee pot or microwave.
You might try to run an extension cord from your generator to your coffee pot or even a toaster as a test to see if your generator can handle that load. It certainly should do fine. If it fails, then the generator is having problems.
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07-25-2015, 12:11 PM
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Senior Member
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I use a Harbor freight Gen. It is loud but will run ac and microwave and is 4 kw. It starts and runs well. It doesn't even slow when ac kicks on. Is under $300.
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07-25-2015, 12:18 PM
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Bring the ear plugs. Later RJD
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07-25-2015, 12:20 PM
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If your using a Honda 2000 to run Ac what size? It will not run a 13500 AC. At least it failed on mine. Later RJD
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07-25-2015, 12:38 PM
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If I had a 13.5 A/C unit that wouldn't run on a 2000 watt generator (Honda, Yamaha, etc.), I would add a "hard start capacitor" to my A/C unit.
You can do a search for "hard start capacitor" on this site and get all the data you need.
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07-26-2015, 11:57 PM
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My Honda runs my 13500 a/c with water heater and fridge on gas though.
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07-27-2015, 03:43 AM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redwolfpei
My Honda runs my 13500 a/c with water heater and fridge on gas though.
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Knowing which Honda would help.
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07-27-2015, 06:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Knowing which Honda would help.
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Honda eu2000i
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07-27-2015, 11:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aceinspp
If your using a Honda 2000 to run Ac what size? It will not run a 13500 AC. At least it failed on mine.
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My Honda 2000 runs my 13.5K BTU A/C just fine in Florida. That's hot, but low elevation. After testing to confirm it works I also bought a booster capacitor to help it start under marginal conditions but haven't really stressed it.
Some users install a time delay on the fan motor to stagger the start loads of the A/C motor and fan motor. Even if you don't, make sure the A/C itself has a time delay so it doesn't try to kick on as soon as it gets power.
It may not work at higher elevations. I haven't tried that yet but don't plan to. If I need A/C and don't have shore power, I need to camp where it's cooler.
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