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Old 06-17-2016, 08:37 PM   #1
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I know this is a silly newbie question, but I am going to ask anyway. We pick up our 2016 shamrock 23ws on the 29th. Since we haven't had the checkout/in service with it yet, I'm confused. How many amps does my camper have/run off of? I told you it was a silly, borderline stupid, question
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You will have a 30 amp power cord and you will need 30 amps to run all the equipment in your camper. You can use a 15 amp connector for driveway camping but you won't be able to use the ac. Fridge will be ok, some lights, a fan, but no ac.
If you are thinking of installing a 30 amp service at your house or storage, be sure it is only 115 volt, not 230. 230 will fry your converter.
BTW...congrats on the new camper.
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Unless you ordered an upgrade your unit will come set up for 30A service. You can use it on a higher current service ( 50A) with an adapter or with limited high current items running on a 15A or 20A household outlet ( with adapter) using a heavy duty extension. This last option is generally used only when working in the TT at home or for running the fridge to pre-cool it for a trip. You would not really want to run long term on a household outlet.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:22 PM   #5
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You will have a 30 amp power cord and you will need 30 amps to run all the equipment in your camper. You can use a 15 amp connector for driveway camping but you won't be able to use the ac. Fridge will be ok, some lights, a fan, but no ac.
If you are thinking of installing a 30 amp service at your house or storage, be sure it is only 115 volt, not 230. 230 will fry your converter.
BTW...congrats on the new camper.
I can run my 13.5K AC in my driveway with a 15 amp adapter. Of course, I don't run much else!
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I know this is a silly newbie question, but I am going to ask anyway. We pick up our 2016 shamrock 23ws on the 29th. Since we haven't had the checkout/in service with it yet, I'm confused. How many amps does my camper have/run off of? I told you it was a silly, borderline stupid, question
Not silly at all, as we all have to learn. Here are some of the things I suggest reading at first:

Applicable to all RV's

Basic RV Electricity - RV Information (RV Maintenance)

RV Converters and Amp Draw - RV Information (RV Maintenance)

and if applicable to your particular RV:

http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ore-36197.html
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Old 06-17-2016, 10:23 PM   #7
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I can run my 13.5K AC in my driveway with a 15 amp adapter. Of course, I don't run much else!
X2, I run my 15K ac and residential fridge in my driveway, no problem...
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X2, I run my 15K ac and residential fridge in my driveway, no problem...
X3 same here, fridge and 13.5k ac

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Old 06-18-2016, 06:38 AM   #9
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X3 same here, fridge and 13.5k ac

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X4 but that does not mean everyone should.

Its all about lengths of run and gauge of wire as well as your incoming voltage and even the quality of the adapter can come into play. You really need to read up and know how to account for everything.

People come to boards and see that others are doing it. Then they go and plug their trailer into a $3 adapter with 200' of 16 gauge Henry homeowner extension cords and POOF
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X2, I run my 15K ac and residential fridge in my driveway, no problem...
When you say no problem, that is based on so many variables that are lining up, with or without knowing the sequence of events that are occuring. Your use in that manner, is at or near the extreme limit of the receptacle. So, the "wow, I can't believe that happened" moment is pretty close. Periodically check the plug connection for any buildup of heat. Also, RV plug ends tend to become either dirty or excessively tarnished over time, due to the duty enviroment they encounter. That, if not monitored, will melt something in short order. Just sayin'
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Yes, I would be hesitant to recommend to anyone that it is "safe" to run the air conditioner when plugged into a 15 amp outlet, even not knowing all the variables that could come into play.

My air conditioner is on it's own individual 20 amp circuit breaker inside the trailer. There is a reason it is sized that way.
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When you say no problem, that is based on so many variables that are lining up, with or without knowing the sequence of events that are occuring. Your use in that manner, is at or near the extreme limit of the receptacle. So, the "wow, I can't believe that happened" moment is pretty close. Periodically check the plug connection for any buildup of heat. Also, RV plug ends tend to become either dirty or excessively tarnished over time, due to the duty enviroment they encounter. That, if not monitored, will melt something in short order. Just sayin'
Well, in my case, I have a 25 ft "garden variety" (flat 3 wire) extension cord plugged into the garage outlet. The other end is plugged into my 50 ft reel cord on the ceiling of the garage. Then I plug in my "$3" adapter, then the 25 ft TT cord. As I said, no problems so far. And I do check the temperature of the extension cord, outlet, reel, and TT cord. So that's 100 ft of extension cord. They have not even gotten warm.

The AC doesn't really pull much more than a 1500 watt heater.

Walmart, Lowe's and Home Depot are full of window AC units of 12K to 15K that plug right into home outlets. Here's a 15.1K one:

Frigidaire FFRE1533S1 15,100 BTU 115V Window-Mounted Median Air Conditioner with Temperature Sensing Remote Control - Walmart.com

As I said before, I don't run much else. I'm not trying to heat water or run a toaster or make coffee.

Just sayin'
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Wall shaker ACs have a very short cord, extension cords will work if they are a heavy enough gage wire. If you are going to run off less that a 30 amp outlet best if your RV power cord is plugged directly into the source with a residential adapter. I burned up the AC on my class A using an extension cord. New (as in age) will tolerate low voltage better then old ACs but still may die. JMHO
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Besides running the residential fridge, it will also keep your batteries charged. Congrats on the new rig! Remember, the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. We've all been there at one time!
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Well, in my case, I have a 25 ft "garden variety" (flat 3 wire) extension cord plugged into the garage outlet. The other end is plugged into my 50 ft reel cord on the ceiling of the garage. Then I plug in my "$3" adapter, then the 25 ft TT cord. As I said, no problems so far. And I do check the temperature of the extension cord, outlet, reel, and TT cord. So that's 100 ft of extension cord. They have not even gotten warm
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The 233s Root I have uses a 30amp cord. I suspect your camper will use that size as well
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I put in the 30amp outlet and use a 100ft and a 30 ft plus the 20 or 25 ft from the camper cord. I put the power management system in and get good readings from the outlet. I have run pretty much everything at the same time except the microwave and have had no problems. With nothing on the readings on the PMS are 1 A, 60 H and 120. When I put just the 15K A/C on it goes to about 4 A. I do have the heavy duty 30amp cords.
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With nothing on the readings on the PMS are 1 A, 60 H and 120. When I put just the 15K A/C on it goes to about 4 A. I do have the heavy duty 30amp cords.
Either this is with just the fan motor running ( before the compressor kicks in) or your EMS is bad. The compressor draws about 12-13 A after startup.
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I am sure you are right. The family is going camping next week and I will pay closer attention to it. I just remember checking it one day and didn't pay much attention to the pump - I just knew it was cool in there.
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