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Old 10-27-2015, 10:56 AM   #11
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The floorplan you posted is a good one for a family of 5, with girls that might want to bring a friend camping. Slide out is great for having enough space to move around when 5 people are stuck inside during a storm.

Now, on to the TV.

Take 12% of the max trailer weight. That is the tongue weight your vehicle will need to support. With 4 females, I would use the GVWR of the TT. Betting on not using all the CC of the TT is not a safe bet! By the time you load bedding, clothes, food, ice, cookware, games, camp chairs etc for 5 people, you're looking at 1000 lbs + EASILY. Unless you play the weight police on every trip, you will be close to max.

Add to that number the weight of people and stuff you plan to have inside the vehicle. Include any after market parts like steps and roof racks, if you're into that.

Add to that 100 pounds for a good WDH.

Take that total (12% + people and stuff + WDH), and subtract from the Cargo Capacity of the vehicle you are considering. This is published on the door sticker. It will vary by trim level and options, so just looking at a website may be off by 200 pounds or more. Look at the sticker on the actual vehicle.

Can it hold the tongue weight, the hitch, your family, and stuff?

For almost all 1/2 ton vehicles the cargo capacity (also known as payload) is the limiting factor for towing a full height travel trailer. You can ignore the max tow ratings until you verify that the payload is not exceeded.

For an SUV, you may need to budget some money to stiffen up the suspension. Truck suspensions are better suited to towing and hauling. SUV suspensions are better suited to families and groceries. I'm not saying an SUV can't be a decent tow vehicle, but realize that there are trade offs. What you gain in ride comfort around town in an SUV will be a negative when towing a travel trailer.

If you take the time to do this math, and check the actual stickers on both the TT and the TV you can find a good match. Use the GVWR on the TT. The dry weight published means almost nothing. Options like awnings, AC units, TVs Microwaves, and anything listed in an option package are most likely not included in the published dry weight. The sticker on the camper will include factory options. Ask the dealership if they have added any additional options (battery and propane for one, possibly other items).

One SUV with 3rd row seating that you may want to look into is the Dodge Durango with the 5.7L hemi and max tow package. I saw someone towing a 30 footer with a family in it, and thought "no way...." so I did a quick web search on the Durango capacities and was surprised. They were right on the line, but technically it could do it.
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Old 10-27-2015, 11:00 AM   #12
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Yea the Roo 17, 19, or 183 would be the best fit for the Sequoia.


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Old 10-27-2015, 11:08 AM   #13
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This may not be in your wheel house but are you planning on camping over the years to come or are you just planning this one trip?

If you are only really planning this one big trip then it may be a better idea to rent.

If you want to get into this and take multiple trips over the years then I would look into a truck and TT. The truck will not be that much bigger than the Sequioa and easy enough to drive on the regular. I always rode in a crew cab (4-door) when I was a kid with my sisters on road trips. There was plenty of room and you have have the necessary CC for your TT.
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Old 10-27-2015, 11:39 AM   #14
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Make sure you get a TV that will handle the TT you want to get. Do your homework on the weights, GVWR, GWR etc. of TV. Tongue weight of trailer. Tongue weight that the TV can handle. Do you want to travel safely? Think into the future for possible trailer upgrades. Good luck. You'll get lots of different answers here but it's only you who can make the decision you have to live with.
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Old 10-27-2015, 11:42 AM   #15
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Another plus for a Tundra over the Sequoia is the towing mirrors!

Its the only way you will be able to see past the boxy camper.

Both give comparable gas Mileage (5.7L & 4x4).

If your wife is worried about driving the Crewmax remember they are both built from the same base!

I had my wife drive a Crewmax at a Toyota drive event where they had models hooked up to trailers loaded to the max with iron weights. She thought it was fun to drive!


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Old 10-27-2015, 11:45 AM   #16
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Make sure you get a TV that will handle the TT you want to get. Do your homework on the weights, GVWR, GWR etc. of TV. Tongue weight of trailer. Tongue weight that the TV can handle. Do you want to travel safely? Think into the future for possible trailer upgrades. Good luck. You'll get lots of different answers here but it's only you who can make the decision you have to live with.
Yes!!!! make sure you research the payload and carrying capacity. Remember tongue weight, cargo, gear, WDH and people all deduct from the the CC.
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Old 10-27-2015, 11:55 AM   #17
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I tried towing my 233s with s trailblazer, not enough stability, it would sway all over the road if a bird flew by


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Old 10-27-2015, 12:27 PM   #18
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My wife isn't worried about the size of the truck but the capacity to haul our kids with their friends (which is why we have a minivan right now). It is my plan/hope to not make this a 1 time trip, but a way our family vacations and explores together. I am most worried about the safety of my family and not burning up our tow vehicle. What I am hearing is that for me to do that I will need to go the truck route. It might mean that we need to get rid of both vehicles and get a truck and a newer minivan (ours is close to the end of its life, which is why we were hoping to trade the minivan for a SUV).
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Old 10-27-2015, 12:36 PM   #19
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If you're looking to take more than five people, a crew cab isn't going to cut it. You've limited yourself to a Suburban/Yukon, which in that case should be a 3/4 ton.
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Old 10-27-2015, 12:45 PM   #20
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Based on your last reply, you might consider renting a trailer for a weekend to try out the idea of TT camping. Might be you love it but the rest of the fam hates it. Better to have an expensive weekend rental than lose your buns on a TT that won't be used.
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