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Old 10-27-2015, 04:58 PM   #31
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Old 10-27-2015, 05:58 PM   #32
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Have you looked into full size vans? We needed a tv but didn't want to get a truck since we go to dog shows and needed the dogs to ride in the tv with us. We tow a SolAire 251rbss and its like its not even back there. We have plenty of room in the van for us and the dogs and a nice sized trailer for camping. cincia
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Old 10-27-2015, 06:37 PM   #33
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Suggestions for TV and Camper

Here is your example with a 2016 Sequoia & Roo 233s:

NOTE: weights below are for 4x2/ 4x4.

Sequoia GCWR: 13,600/ 13,500

Sequoia GVWR: 7,100/ 7,300

Sequoia Cargo: 1,350/ 1,250

Sequoia GTWR: 7,400/ 7,300

Sequoia Tongue: 1,000/ 960

Est. 233s GVWR (4,748 UVW + 1,474 CWR): 6222


Total Combo Tow Check

GCWR-GVWR: 6,500/6,200. The 4x2 @ 6,500 > 6,222 Roo GVWR. The 4x4 would be close is you didn't max the Roo or the Sequoia

Total Towing Check

233s GVWR @ 6,222 < 7,400/ 7,100 Sequoia GTWR

Tongue Check

6,222 (233s GVWR) * 11% = 684.42 < 1.000/ 960 (Sequoia Tongue Max). You would be safe at 15% as well for both drive trains.

Sequoia GVWR Check

1,350/ 1,200 (Sequoia Cargo) - 684.4 (11% @ Roo 233s GVWR) = 665.6/ 564.6 (Sequoia Max Cargo)

Given the TV only caries the tongue weight and that's between 9 to 15% its better to carry your cargo in the camper. But people can't travel in the camper, so you need to limit the Roo Cargo for people in the Sequoia.

If you load the 233s to the max the Sequoia Cargo Limit drops, so your not likely to max the Sequoia's GCWR of 13,600/ 13,500.

Is it impossible or unsafe to tow the 233s with a Sequoia? I don't think so, but I would personally go with the 4X2 in this setup.

You will need to be very careful in loading both vehicles. Your Sequoia 4x2 Cargo Max will be 665.6 to 690 lbs (233s max GVWR @ 11% tongue weight to UVW tongue weight @ 660lbs).




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Old 10-27-2015, 07:10 PM   #34
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Note: The Max Sequoia's Cargo Weight (> 690lbs) with the 233s would be with a cargo load in the back of 233s to lighten the UVW tongue weight from 14% to 11%.


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Old 10-27-2015, 09:35 PM   #35
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We tow our SolAire 20RBS with our 2014 Tahoe Z71, which has the beefed up suspension, and a heavy tow package. The SolAire is somewhat heavier that the Roo, but we have no issues. It is rated to 8200 tow capacity. If you go that route, you get the third row (we pulled ours since we don't have kids, just 2 cats), so we get an extra 130 lbs of capacity. Our base weight is about 5000 lbs with water, battery, propane, dinnerware, cooking utensils. Add food and clothing with a small ice chest, shoes, boots, some domino games and we're up to 5300 lbs real quick. That said there are ways to,lighten the load: light-weight cookware (aluminum), Lexan utensils (from Coleman), and other things can cut the overall load down a bit. One weight-saving tip: leave the daughter's friends at home. They'll get over it and have lots of stories to share.
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Old 10-27-2015, 10:39 PM   #36
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You got a lot of opinions here. We bought our first little camper and didn't even have a tow vehicle. We used my old Trans Am to tow a small boat but not a camper! The we upgraded and have towed 30 foot trailers with a 3/4 ton van and a suburban. Both worked well for towing, kids and dogs. Suburban definitely did better. But I finally got my husband to test drive a real truck and now he loves our Ram. The caddy sits all weekend and we take the truck everywhere. Take an afternoon and test drive a variety. Have fun!
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Old 10-27-2015, 11:39 PM   #37
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Our original plan was to trade-in my wife's Odyssey for a full-size SUV & use it to tow a Hybrid. However, after going to a RV show we realized that Hybrids provide no more privacy than a tent/popup, the mattresses were horrible, and they were nearly as expensive & tongue-heavy as some hard-sided TTs... Also, even used SUVs were very pricey & our choices were limited to those with hefty tow packages like the Suburban or Nissan Armada...

With 3 kids we really liked the 2-slide bunkhouses because they gave the kids plenty of room to hang-out, change clothes, and store all of their stuff. I also loved the idea of having an outdoor kitchen - especially handy to make that 1st meal when we arrive at the CG tired & hungry... However, the lightest 2-slide bunkhouses were 6,500 empty & up... Although some folks will tow our TT with a 1/2 ton SUV or truck, once loaded it's 8,250 w/tongue weight of 1300 which places it in 3/4 territory...

So rather than trade-in the Odyssey, we traded-in my Accord & I got a 2 year-old Ram 2500 CC ST (stock) w/5.7 Hemi for $14K. The CC is very roomy & seats 6. We found a mildly used lightweight 2-slide bunkhouse for around $20K, so $35K for both... Combined that's less than a 2 year-old full-size SUV...

I found a like-new fiberglass cap on CL for $500 so now it has a SUV-like look. Now that I've had it for a couple years I love having the PU bed & cap to haul stuff vs. folding down seats in the van or a suv... We are so much more active now that we have a truck. We go biking, fishing, hiking, etc. & just throw our dirty gear in the back. My DW drives the 2500 occasionally & it still fits beside her Odyssey in our garage.
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Old 10-28-2015, 01:06 AM   #38
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One other thing to consider if you are going to Yellowstone and plan to camp in the park is that they do not allow tents or soft sided trailers in the parks because of the bears. We used a 2500 Chevy Duramax with Allison transmission to pull a 30 foot Keystone Montana. Our truck was a crew cab and we had a 14, 8 and 5 years old kids, a Cocker spaniel and two adults. Kids had a wonderful time! Yellowstone and Glacier were "must sče" parks. Had the 2500 HD Duramax for the Montanna, then an Everest 5er for 11 years. Glad I bought this truck as it accommodated as we progressed from TT to 5er. Got good gas mileage and would tow effortlessly until we got our 2014 Forest River Cedar Creek which weighs in at almost 17K pounds.
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One other thing to consider if you are going to Yellowstone and plan to camp in the park is that they do not allow tents or soft sided trailers in the parks because of the bears.
Another example of BAD and UNTRUE info.

Only ONE campground at YNP, has a permanent ban on soft sided RVs.
That's Fishing Bridge CG.
All the others, in the Park, allow soft sided RVs.
That includes Madison, Canyon, Bridge Bay, Mammoth and Grant.

Because Fishing Bridge CG does, many assume that means the whole Park, without checking the facts.
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Another example of BAD and UNTRUE info.

Only ONE campground at YNP, has a permanent ban on soft sided RVs.
That's Fishing Bridge CG.
All the others, in the Park, allow soft sided RVs.
That includes Madison, Canyon, Bridge Bay, Mammoth and Grant.

Because Fishing Bridge CG does, many assume that means the whole Park, without checking the facts.
And despite the management contractors, Xanterras, claims that Fishing Bridge is off limits to soft sided campers due to bears, I call BS on that. I believe its more about not cluttering up the only campground with hookups with lowly tents and popups. Hence the name.....Fishing Bridge "RV" Park. Bridge Bay Campground is less than 5 miles away and no bear issues there. The bears must know not to go there? 5 miles is nothing for a bear.
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