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09-17-2019, 08:22 AM
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Tire Question
I am pulling a 23WS with a Ram 1500 Sport Quad Cab. I am at the point of needing new tires and the question has come up as to whether I need LT tires or are passenger tires ok? I have towed this camper for a couple years on the original passenger tires (P275/60 R20) but have always felt the truck could have felt more steady for lack of a better description. Not sure how much rougher the ride would be with LT tires during normal driving.
I do have a load distribution hitch on the truck (don't remember the brand at the moment).
Any thoughts on this subject?
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09-17-2019, 08:54 AM
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I have the Michelin LTX tires on my RAM 1500... I did not feel a difference in the ride when I upgraded from the OEM Goodyear Wranglers. THe LT tires will make a difference with towing because they will flex less when cornering causing less sway on the trailer. So far I have put nearly 50,000 miles on the tires and still have plenty of tread life. I got the best price at Costco who puts the Michelins on sale 3-5 times a year.
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09-17-2019, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rsdata
I have the Michelin LTX tires on my RAM 1500... I did not feel a difference in the ride when I upgraded from the OEM Goodyear Wranglers. THe LT tires will make a difference with towing because they will flex less when cornering causing less sway on the trailer. So far I have put nearly 50,000 miles on the tires and still have plenty of tread life. I got the best price at Costco who puts the Michelins on sale 3-5 times a year.
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Thanks for the info. Can I ask which model of LTX tires you bought? There appears to be several to choose from (A/T2, M/S2, maybe more?).
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09-17-2019, 09:21 AM
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IMO you will not go wrong with any of the Michelin tires. My second choice is always BF Goodrich. I have purchased 3 other sets of LT tires and been SORRY each time. Never again. I had Goodyear tires on a new Jeep I purchased in Jan. 2007... never again there either... 16000 miles had to replace and they weren't worn out... somehow had a wobble. All my opinions of course. A buddy of mine was in the pass/LT and HD truck service business since the 70's... he told me for LT truck tires there were 2 choices... Michelin or Goodrich. I am NOW convinced he was 100% correct.
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09-17-2019, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rsdata
I have the Michelin LTX tires on my RAM 1500... I did not feel a difference in the ride when I upgraded from the OEM Goodyear Wranglers. THe LT tires will make a difference with towing because they will flex less when cornering causing less sway on the trailer. So far I have put nearly 50,000 miles on the tires and still have plenty of tread life. I got the best price at Costco who puts the Michelins on sale 3-5 times a year.
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I run the Michelin Defender LTX M/S on my Yukon as well (56465 265/65R18 114T). However, mine are still a P-Metric tire and not an LT tire. Michelin does make LT tires in the LTX series and I was curious how they feel in comparison.
I was looking at going to the LTX with an XL load rating (not an LT) when it's time to replace. I probably won't get 70K on these tires but I'm at 50K and doing fine.
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09-17-2019, 09:35 AM
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Can I ask which model of LTX tires you bought?
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LTX M/S
after 52,000 miles, 20 inch size
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09-17-2019, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Iwannacamp
IMO you will not go wrong with any of the Michelin tires. My second choice is always BF Goodrich. I have purchased 3 other sets of LT tires and been SORRY each time. Never again. I had Goodyear tires on a new Jeep I purchased in Jan. 2007... never again there either... 16000 miles had to replace and they weren't worn out... somehow had a wobble. All my opinions of course. A buddy of mine was in the pass/LT and HD truck service business since the 70's... he told me for LT truck tires there were 2 choices... Michelin or Goodrich. I am NOW convinced he was 100% correct.
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Yeah, my Ram dealer is pushing the Goodrich TA K02 in a LT. They look pretty aggressive but he swears all his customers love them. I'm worried about them being noisy but he says they really aren't. My current tires are horrible in the rain and here in the Midwest, we occasionally get snow as well so that's something to consider.
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09-17-2019, 09:43 AM
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At the size camper you are towing I would think LT's are appropriate. I am surprised that passenger tires are really even an option on truck...
That said I stepped up to E rated tires on my half ton and have loved the change. Yes the ride is a little rougher, but the stability you feel on the road is more than worth the trade off.
It took me from white knuckles in heavy traffic with regular tractor trailers passing, to hardly noticing them. Windy days can still be hairy at times, but a whole lot easier than before.
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09-17-2019, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CentralMePistol
At the size camper you are towing I would think LT's are appropriate. I am surprised that passenger tires are really even an option on truck...
That said I stepped up to E rated tires on my half ton and have loved the change. Yes the ride is a little rougher, but the stability you feel on the road is more than worth the trade off.
It took me from white knuckles in heavy traffic with regular tractor trailers passing, to hardly noticing them. Windy days can still be hairy at times, but a whole lot easier than before.
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So is an E rated tire an LT? I'm not really familiar with the ratings system.
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09-17-2019, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Daebado
I am pulling a 23WS with a Ram 1500 Sport Quad Cab. I am at the point of needing new tires and the question has come up as to whether I need LT tires or are passenger tires ok? I have towed this camper for a couple years on the original passenger tires (P275/60 R20) but have always felt the truck could have felt more steady for lack of a better description. Not sure how much rougher the ride would be with LT tires during normal driving.
I do have a load distribution hitch on the truck (don't remember the brand at the moment).
Any thoughts on this subject?
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The LT tires will give you a more - every day - harsh ride. However, they will give you more stabilization when towing your trailer.
When changing from "P" to "LT" tires the physical size of the tire is of primary importance. There are brands of LT tires that you can easily change to. However, because of the differences in inflation pressures and the degrading of the "P" tires you should seek out a retailer well experienced with the changes. Make sure they set a new recommended cold tire inflation pressure for them and make notations in the vehicle owner manual and add an auxiliary tire load and inflation placard next to the original.
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09-17-2019, 12:30 PM
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https://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireS...earDiameter=17 Put these on my Ram ... DEFENDER LTX M/S
... The are so much of a improvement for towing ... can not recommend a better tire .
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09-17-2019, 12:36 PM
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Also the ride has been good with the new tires and I run 60 psi all around and go up 5 lbs in rear when I tow ... gives me more load coverage than I would ever need ... I am keeping a eye on wear and will adjust if needed so far no problem
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09-17-2019, 12:49 PM
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Thanks, Frank. I notice the link has these as 265/60's instead of the 275/60's that came on the truck. Has the different height affected your speedometer readings at all? (or maybe your 2019 takes a different size than my 2015?)
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09-17-2019, 12:54 PM
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Hey it is one mile per hour difference and my original size was 275 55 R20 ... thanks
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09-17-2019, 01:30 PM
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Hey it is one mile per hour difference and my original size was 275 55 R20 ... thanks
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Got it. I guess these would actually be a bit wider than the originals on my truck. Wonder if that would be an issue.
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09-17-2019, 01:36 PM
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Hey they fit no problem if you want to check with Tire racks they can tell you for sure what's your size is and what size you want
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09-17-2019, 01:44 PM
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I just checked my Michelin Defender M/S tires I mentioned earlier... the size is 275-60-R20. I got them at Costco, although they did have to order them. Free tire rotation every 6K miles with Free hazard insurance. Wait for a sale... The money I saved from other dealers paid for a 1 year membership to Costco.
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09-17-2019, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Daebado
Thanks, Frank. I notice the link has these as 265/60's instead of the 275/60's that came on the truck. Has the different height affected your speedometer readings at all? (or maybe your 2019 takes a different size than my 2015?)
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X10 on the Michelin's . you will notice a highly improved ride and harsh is not a word i would use to describe it . just a better ride and better control all around . can't go wrong with the Michelin's . you will have the ability to increase tire pressure based on load so while towing you can run a higher psi when not towing you can deflate a bit . play around with it and you'll find the sweet spots for psi
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09-17-2019, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rsdata
I just checked my Michelin Defender M/S tires I mentioned earlier... the size is 275-60-R20. I got them at Costco, although they did have to order them. Free tire rotation every 6K miles with Free hazard insurance. Wait for a sale... The money I saved from other dealers paid for a 1 year membership to Costco.
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So I notice yours are not LT's. Interesting as I just got done talking to TireRack and they advise against putting LT's on a half ton pickup. The TireRack guy says the standard Defenders (like yours) will handle anything my truck can tow. This goes against some of what I've been reading so now I'm not sure what to believe!
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09-17-2019, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MR.M
X10 on the Michelin's . you will notice a highly improved ride and harsh is not a word i would use to describe it . just a better ride and better control all around . can't go wrong with the Michelin's . you will have the ability to increase tire pressure based on load so while towing you can run a higher psi when not towing you can deflate a bit . play around with it and you'll find the sweet spots for psi
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yep what he said x2
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