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Old 07-27-2014, 09:36 PM   #11
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We tow our 23IKSS with a 12 pass chevy express 3500 6.0 liter. It has plenty of pep towing, and room for kids. You don't have to climb over seats like the Suburban. It does excellent in the snow with the traction control and T/A tires. The eight passenger has all wheel drive option.
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:19 PM   #12
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I weighed both TV and TT fully loaded, but was by myself. It weighed10,700lbs. The trailer actually pulled very well with no sway. It just felt like the 4Runner was under power especially when going 60+mph. I also think there is quite a bit of drag resistance, due to the TT not being very aerodynamic. Debating btwn a SUV or a P/U truck. I just need to pay attention to vehicle payloads if going with an SUV. Would a V8 5.7 liter Sequoia be enough to tow this?
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:41 PM   #13
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Personally, I try not to be over 60 mph due to the fact that your mileage drops considerably the higher you go AND the fact that most other drivers still jump in front of you taking up the extra braking space that is needed to slow down the big box behind you.

The sequioa shouldn't have a problem pulling it- you will just have to do the math of people+gear= cargo weight and see if you are still in line.


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Old 07-28-2014, 09:44 AM   #14
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I weighed both TV and TT fully loaded, but was by myself. It weighed10,700lbs. The trailer actually pulled very well with no sway. It just felt like the 4Runner was under power especially when going 60+mph. I also think there is quite a bit of drag resistance, due to the TT not being very aerodynamic. Debating btwn a SUV or a P/U truck. I just need to pay attention to vehicle payloads if going with an SUV. Would a V8 5.7 liter Sequoia be enough to tow this?
We pull our 23IKSS with an F-150 and are very happy with how it tows. Fully loaded, our trailer weighed in at just about 6,000 lbs. And the tongue was 800 lbs - so payload capacity of the tow vehicle is something to watch.

I had a V-6 Explorer that we used to pull our 3,000 lb popup with, and it was fine, but no way I would have wanted to pull a full height trailer with it. The mid-size SUV's are built more lilke cars, so even if they do have a large enough engine, the transmission, suspension, etc just aren't designed for heavy towing.

If you want the best setup for towing, I would go with a 1/2 ton pickup. Crew cabs give you a full back seat. The gas mileage of the eco-boost is pretty attractive. If that doesn't work for the other 300 plus days a year when not towing, a full size SUV is probably the only other option - Tahoe, Suburban, Expedition, Armada, Sequoia.

Either way, I think you'll be much happier with a bigger tv. We love the trailer, and I typically can cruise along 60-65 no problem and can keep a reasonable speed on the hills. But more importantly, the trailer doesn't push the truck around even if its windy and it stops in a reasonable distance.
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Old 07-28-2014, 12:49 PM   #15
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Just got back from the lake pulling our 21RS loaded so about 6000lbs, got about 12 MPG cruise set at about 68 MPH.

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Old 07-28-2014, 01:12 PM   #16
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Several factors go into the "my gas mileage sucks". No you should not automatically tow with cruise control on, and yes the 5.7 (if available) would do better up hills. Head winds play a big part in gas mileage, additionally, carrying extra water (fresh, grey, black) add to the "OMG" on gas mileage. I have found that using cruse is not all ways the best. Keeping the RPM at or below 2400 is the more important issue. Feathering the gas peddle and paying attention to the road upgrades and down grades pays bigger dividends. Yes it makes the right leg sore on those long hauls, but you know its better on the drive train. One more thought is speed. With all previous understood, keeping the speed closer to the minimum posted speed limits rather than the maximum is a good thing, well, at least for gas mileage...
Hi, I use my cruise on the ecoboost all of the time on flat and smaller hills. It does a better job at keeping the transmission in 6th than I can. Mileage is better as well. Going downhill the assisted braking of the engine is welcome and hardly do i need to touch the brakes. A good combination with my 5TH and TV.
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I weighed both TV and TT fully loaded, but was by myself. It weighed10,700lbs. The trailer actually pulled very well with no sway. It just felt like the 4Runner was under power especially when going 60+mph. I also think there is quite a bit of drag resistance, due to the TT not being very aerodynamic. Debating btwn a SUV or a P/U truck. I just need to pay attention to vehicle payloads if going with an SUV. Would a V8 5.7 liter Sequoia be enough to tow this?
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Just like you, my camper is so much taller than my truck that you feel a lot of wind resistance. Without the camper I usually get 17mpg on the interstate, but on the way home I got 9 mpg with the camper attached. In the 8+ hours it took me to drive back to Birmingham, Alabama from Orlando with my 23IKSS, one of the things I noticed was that my 2004 GMC Sierra was the happiest at 60ish mph. Anything over 65mph you could really feel the wind resistance.
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SUVs: Expedition, Sequoia, Suburban (check gear ratio on anything GM), Armada. Any of those would do well with a tow package.


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Get the king of SUVs--ford excursion. 3/4 ton SUV with a diesel.


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