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Old 03-22-2013, 08:14 AM   #1
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I am looking at purchasing a ROO 21ss or 23ss with all options, but first I am purchasing a new TV. I have looked at all the weights(unloaded and GVWR) of these two units and was wondering what they would weigh with all options. The tow vehicle I was interested in was the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee that has a tow rating of 6200 lbs with the 6 cylinder and 7400 with the 8 cylinder. I know I will never be at the total GVWR of the trailer. It's only me and my wife. I prefer to get the 6 for better gas mileage, but would the 8 cylinder be a better choice due to weight. Also can you get electric stabilizers added on the trailer somehow. Feedback greatly appreciated from all of you.
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You should probably also be concerned with your payload or weight capacity of the vehicle. You have to consider the tongue weight of the trailer. The dry capacities from the manufacturer will have to be plussed up; trailer options, fluids, propane tanks and propane, battery, all the stuff you pack in the trailer, will raise the tongue weight. Generally, you can add about 1,000 pounds to the dry weights as an estimate. Then there is the weight of your hitch, family and all of the stuff you pack into your vehicle. You would be surprised at how quickly all of this mounts up to more weight than you might think.

Would you consider a 1/2 ton truck with a full crew cab?
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:55 AM   #3
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as a 23SS owner, i strongly suggest a v-8 truck or SUV. or the Ecoboost F150.
any other v-6, even the Penastar, will struggle in mountains.

both trailers will be a minimum of 5000lbs. loaded. with a family, much more.
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I have towed a 23SS for 5 years all around the country with a Toyato Trunda, 4.7 V8. This arrangement has worked well most of the time. Only over the mountains did the truck work hard.
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I towed a Salem 21RD with a Dodge Dakota V8. On the GVWR it could haul 7000# trailer which the 21rd was well under,. It worked well on flat towing but was a real challenge going uphill and in any kind of wind. I would suggest a full sized 1/2 ton truck to be on the safe side. I traded the Dakota for a Ram 1500 Hemi and don't even know the trailer is there when towing now.
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I am looking at purchasing a ROO 21ss or 23ss with all options, but first I am purchasing a new TV. I have looked at all the weights(unloaded and GVWR) of these two units and was wondering what they would weigh with all options. The tow vehicle I was interested in was the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee that has a tow rating of 6200 lbs with the 6 cylinder and 7400 with the 8 cylinder. I know I will never be at the total GVWR of the trailer. It's only me and my wife. I prefer to get the 6 for better gas mileage, but would the 8 cylinder be a better choice due to weight. Also can you get electric stabilizers added on the trailer somehow. Feedback greatly appreciated from all of you.
have you thought about the diesel option for the 2014 GC? It would mimic the tow capacity of the v8 but have better mpg than the 6.

Of course, that assumes the JGC has enough cargo capacity for your tongue weight and gear.
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I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited w/ the V8, and was never disappointed in its towing capability. Until I bought my F150.

For me, I wouldn't buy a V6 to tow anything over 3-4K lbs.

My brother has a Nissan w/ the 4.3L engine pulling a 21' Jayco and he says it struggles once he gets into hilly roads like western MA or anywhere in NH. He's not a lead foot driver by any means either.

Your mileage may vary of course.
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I've been pulling my 2012 Roo19, about 4500 lbs loaded, with a 6 speed V-6 Chevy Traverse rated for 5200 lbs. The problem is not weight but the draft. Runs in 4th gear a 3000 rpm on the flat and level; I'm not comfortable with that. I'm seriously looking for a new TV, probably a V-8 Pickup. I would definitely not go with a V-6 on 21SS or 23SS.
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I've been pulling my 2012 Roo19, about 4500 lbs loaded, with a 6 speed V-6 Chevy Traverse rated for 5200 lbs. The problem is not weight but the draft. Runs in 4th gear a 3000 rpm on the flat and level; I'm not comfortable with that. I'm seriously looking for a new TV, probably a V-8 Pickup. I would definitely not go with a V-6 on 21SS or 23SS.
Don't forget the new jeep has an 8 speed tranny with the v6 or v8 I believe. This will help a lot with towing performance. If you are only going to tow 5% of the time then the better choice may be the more fuel efficient option.

The diesel option seems very interesting and possibly worth waiting for, possibly the best of both worlds.

Good luck,
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"You should probably also be concerned with your payload or weight capacity of the vehicle."
^^That^^ is your primary concern.
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