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Old 02-13-2014, 11:19 AM   #1
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Towing Capacity Questions

Hi All.
My first post and I have a few simple (I hope) questions regarding what I need to know when figuring out what my vehicle can safely tow.

I have a TV with Capacity of 5000lbs.
Looking at a 2011 Roo 233S.
Specifications:
Maximum Sleeping Capacity: 10
Number Of Slideouts: 1
Length (ft-in / m): 27' 9'' / 8.5
Interior Height (in / mm): 78 / 1981.2
Base Weight (lbs / kg): 4134 / 1875.2
Carrying Capacity (lbs / kg): 1833 / 831.4
Hitch Weight (lbs / kg): 532 / 241.3

I need to know the weight factors as I think about 4100 Dry and my vehicle tows 5000 I have 900 to play with but quickly learning that this is not the case.

What else do I need to factor in when deciding how heavy of a trailer can I safely tow?

Thanks in Advance.
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:33 AM   #2
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Anything you put in camper adds to the weight. Food, clothes, tools, entertainment, Etc.... Also dry weight usually doesn't include your propane, any water or pooh your carrying in the tanks. Doesn't sound like much but it does add up fast. Would help if we knew your tow vehicle details?
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Old 02-13-2014, 11:58 AM   #3
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Anything you put in camper adds to the weight. Food, clothes, tools, entertainment, Etc.... Also dry weight usually doesn't include your propane, any water or pooh your carrying in the tanks. Doesn't sound like much but it does add up fast. Would help if we knew your tow vehicle details?
Anything you put in your camper AND anything you put in your tow vehicle excluding the driver adds to the total of cargo carrying capacity.

For example 3 kids a wife and a dog plus anything in the bed of your truck deducts your "tow" capacity numbers.

You really need to look at your cargo carrying capacity on your truck door jamb sticker.
It with the tire loading info.
You'll likely exceed that before anything else . Period.
I'll post an example of my ccc sticker.

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Old 02-13-2014, 12:01 PM   #4
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Here's mine.
Passengers and loaded equipment including hitch weight should not exceed this number. "2448"


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Old 02-13-2014, 12:20 PM   #5
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Here are a few specs I could find online..

MAXIMUM TOWING CAPACITY** 5000 lbs.
GROSS WEIGHT 5150 lbs.
CURB WEIGHT 3786 lbs.
MAXIMUM PAYLOAD** 1100 lbs.

It's looking like I need to trade up for a bigger TV.

What is everyone's opinion of using it this year and trading in next year.
Is it possible to pull the Roo if It's practically empty, I am only travelling about 200KM max per trip.. I drive slow.. flat roads, etc etc etc..

Could I 'get away with it'? Terrible I know but I really don't want to pass on this trailer. It's a really great deal.

Thanks again for all the replies.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:38 PM   #6
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Here are a few specs I could find online..

MAXIMUM TOWING CAPACITY** 5000 lbs.
GROSS WEIGHT 5150 lbs.
CURB WEIGHT 3786 lbs.
MAXIMUM PAYLOAD** 1100 lbs.

It's looking like I need to trade up for a bigger TV.

What is everyone's opinion of using it this year and trading in next year.
Is it possible to pull the Roo if It's practically empty, I am only travelling about 200KM max per trip.. I drive slow.. flat roads, etc etc etc..

Could I 'get away with it'? Terrible I know but I really don't want to pass on this trailer. It's a really great deal.

Thanks again for all the replies.
Your max payload will be eaten up quick.

Hitch weight alone on the roo before loading one single item is half your cargo carrying capcity. 500#
150# for reciver hitch weight distribution and sway bars.


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I need to know the weight factors as I think about 4100 Dry and my vehicle tows 5000 I have 900 to play with but quickly learning that this is not the case.

What else do I need to factor in when deciding how heavy of a trailer can I safely tow?

Thanks in Advance.
Hi Jamie,
The dry weight on the yellow sticker of my 233S says 4,464lb. As I recall, that was 332lbs more than the listed brochure dry weight due to the factory installed options. My factory options included (going by memory here): The convenience package, power awning, slide out toppers, power jack, spare tire, and raised fridge panels.

Along with the "dry weight" you will load quite a bit of extra cargo into the new trailer, which will increase it's weight. Plan on something like 800-1,200lbs of clothes, cargo, water, batteries, propane, food, refreshments, etc. It adds up fast.

Your trailer might come out to as little as 5,000lbs loaded, but that is unlikely. I would guess the loaded weight of your 233S will be closer to 5,300 plus.

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Here are a few specs I could find online..

MAXIMUM TOWING CAPACITY** 5000 lbs.
GROSS WEIGHT 5150 lbs.
CURB WEIGHT 3786 lbs.
MAXIMUM PAYLOAD** 1100 lbs.

It's looking like I need to trade up for a bigger TV.
Yes, you will. You will be over a few ratings for that truck, including the tow cap and the payload. The payload number has to be high enough to account for all of the people and cargo in the truck plus the hitch weight, which is 650-750lbs on mine depending how I load.

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What is everyone's opinion of using it this year and trading in next year.
Is it possible to pull the Roo if It's practically empty, I am only travelling about 200KM max per trip.. I drive slow.. flat roads, etc etc etc..

Could I 'get away with it'? Terrible I know but I really don't want to pass on this trailer. It's a really great deal.

Thanks again for all the replies.
Anything is possible, but is it practical? Towing completely empty (no food, no cargo, etc) is not really how I envision my camping trips. I think this would quickly take the shine off of camping for me YMMV.

Still, that's a better option than towing over your ratings.
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Old 02-13-2014, 12:51 PM   #8
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I forgot all about the yellow sticker... Took a pic yesterday and just checked it... 4513lbs..

I think I need a bigger TV.
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If you are going to get a bigger TV, get one that will handle a larger TT also.

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If you are going to get a bigger TV, get one that will handle a larger TT also.

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I concur ............. buy a tv for your next "bigger" tt
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