TV / Remove for winter? - Page 2

edcronin01 · 10-22-2016, 12:39 PM

I remove mine 2 reasons prevent theft and I use them in the house. Only takes me about 10 minutes to remove 3 TV's.

rockfordroo · 10-22-2016, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rracer5

Yeah, probably because TV manufacturers haven't caught up with us RV'ers having their products in RV's exposed to all kinds of temperature & humidity swings when being used, closed up & stored.

Well, the Furrion in my Roo 19 survived 3 winters no problem. The one in my Mini Lite's survived one winter so far, and is about to head into #2. So I'm not worried about it. As mentioned elsewhere, the displays in cars see basically the same conditions.

satdog01 · 10-22-2016, 02:06 PM

If storing tvs in low temps were an issue, how would the stores get product in the dead of winter. Have not noticed any heated 18 wheelers transporting electronics for the big holiday sales!

jking46 · 10-22-2016, 02:21 PM

As far as dryer sheets go, many have had success as a mouse deterrent. I use mothballs for the same reason. Do not want rodents in the camper.

**Herk7769** · 10-22-2016, 02:29 PM

I did a lot of research two years ago on temperature and Plasma/LED/flat TVs.

There is a cold low limit, but it has to do with use; not storage.
At low temperatures, TVs that use back light won't light till the warm up.
Some LEDs won't fire reliably at very low temperatures (like -25 if I remember correctly).

Once they are back to room temp they are all fine regardless of type.

Drenjoey · 10-22-2016, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jking46

As far as dryer sheets go, many have had success as a mouse deterrent. I use mothballs for the same reason. Do not want rodents in the camper.

As for rodents......Botanical rodent mouse rat control repellent is what we've been using and......no rodents. It smells pine and comes in a box (three bags) that we put throughout the camper, and so far it works great for us.

OscarsMom2 · 10-22-2016, 09:22 PM

Dryer sheets might deter mice.

Guzzi · 10-23-2016, 02:17 PM

Lotta thanks to all that replied/reply., I pulled tv out ( curiosity - 1st removal). Not a big job. Put Irish Spring g soap n moth balls (& plug in mouse noise makers - eliminated problem with old TH we had). Cleaned n removed everything we had room inside 4. Just short of 3 gal Antifreeze.

Wondering now if I should wrap AC n stuff on roof to keep snow n stuff out....

Drenjoey · 10-23-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Guzzi

Lotta thanks to all that replied/reply., I pulled tv out ( curiosity - 1st removal). Not a big job. Put Irish Spring g soap n moth balls (& plug in mouse noise makers - eliminated problem with old TH we had). Cleaned n removed everything we had room inside 4. Just short of 3 gal Antifreeze.

Wondering now if I should wrap AC n stuff on roof to keep snow n stuff out....

I guess you're not covering your camper for the winter....Hummmm! This is one thing I would never do here in Maine.

MilCop4523 · 10-24-2016, 09:48 AM

TV manuals won't specify to remove from a location where it is minus 20 or - 40 because its understood that they will be in a heated home or apartment.
As far as removing batteries... all i do is put a small square between the non spring side of the battery contact on each battery.

LCD or LED TV?

https://rv-roadtrips.thefuntimesguid...screen_lcd_tv/

MilCop4523 · 10-24-2016, 09:51 AM

I also use Fresh Cab mouse deterrent in our 2 trailers and no issues. the neighbors have been infested most years and they are 50 feet away.
If you are in Maine Tractor Supply sells it.

I never cover my trailers with a wrap. just he air conditioner.

rockfordroo · 10-24-2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MilCop4523

TV manuals won't specify to remove from a location where it is minus 20 or - 40 because its understood that they will be in a heated home or apartment.
As far as removing batteries... all i do is put a small square between the non spring side of the battery contact on each battery.

LCD or LED TV?

https://rv-roadtrips.thefuntimesguid...screen_lcd_tv/

Disagree. Furrion TV's are "engineered for mobile applications."

"Climatesmart. Designed and tested for extreme climates."

See here:

Led Tv's Engineered For Mobile Applications

Of course, I'm not commenting on how WELL they perform in extreme climates, only that they are designed for it, or so they claim.

SidecarFlip · 10-24-2016, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OscarsMom2

Dryer sheets might deter mice.

They do. It's SOP with my farm tractors in the barn. A couple sheets in each cab and under the hood, keeps mice out. I used to use mothballs but I don't like the stink.

MilCop4523 · 10-24-2016, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rockfordroo

Disagree. Furrion TV's are "engineered for mobile applications."

"Climatesmart. Designed and tested for extreme climates."

See here:

Led Tv's Engineered For Mobile Applications

Of course, I'm not commenting on how WELL they perform in extreme climates, only that they are designed for it, or so they claim.

2 things.
1. thats why I asked LCD or LED
liquids(as in LCD's) tend to Freeze in extreme cold weather and expand causing breakage.
most people purchase and install their home style TV's in their trailers.

and
2. as far as Furrion is concerned... have you seen their track record for their sound systems?

for the sake of 5 minutes to remove the TV vs going back in the spring and trying to watch a baseball game that ends up looking like Trump and Clinton Wrestling... I'll take the 5 minutes.

**Herk7769** · 10-24-2016, 05:09 PM

LCDs are also backlit by a fluorescent light source and are almost black until they warm up in cold weather. LEDs are not temperature dependent as they generate their own light in use.

rockfordroo · 10-24-2016, 05:25 PM

I've had an LCD calculator in my glove box for 15 winters. Still works fine.

MilCop4523 · 10-25-2016, 06:33 AM

So assuming the OP is using a store purchased home grade TV, not a generation XC specifically made in the past couple years (but yet not proven to be reliable for below freezing storage)... and assuming that readers are using their local Walmart or Target style sold TV, I'm tossing this out for them.

I haven't located one of my 36 inch Samsung LCD TV manuals to see if there is anything in it about cold weather storage but...

"STORING YOUR SET
Even if there's ice and snow outside, that won't affect an LED television inside a warm room. At low enough temperatures, though, anything can freeze. This isn't specifically a problem with the screen -- an LED flat screen is a big box of delicate electronic components, and prolonged exposure to cold or heat can affect them. Samsung warns against storing LCD televisions at temperature below -20 degrees centigrade (-4 Fahrenheit) or above 45 degrees (113 Fahrenheit)."

https://www.techwalla.com/articles/d...n-cold-weather

"Store your LCD TV above freezing temperature. Temperatures below freezing could damage your set. While LCD TVs typically have a lowest acceptable storage temperature of about -20 degrees Celsius (or -4 degrees Fahrenheit), it's better to be safe than sorry when it comes to an expensive television set. Keep it around room temperature to avoid damage from the cold."
https://www.techwalla.com/articles/h...-in-the-winter

"How far below freezing? -20C/-4F is about the bottom, below that you'll be looking at the LCD freezing. At -40C/-40F you'll be at another marker where many of the electronic components will freeze and you will likely have Capacitor rupturing. So -20C for LCDs and -40C for Plasmas. This assumes this is a fairly good sized screen 24" and below will break somewhere above -20C due to having a smaller "enclosure" for the LCD."

LCD or Plasmas: Which will survive an unheated house for the winter - Ars Technica OpenForum

Living where I do - I will bring in the 4 TV's we have in our Toy hauler and 5th wheel trailers for the winter.
At the very least I can pretend I an Best Buy or a Hooters if I turn them all on at the same time in my own bar room.

A few hundred dollars saved is a few more earned.

1996alnl · 10-25-2016, 09:40 AM

I've never brought in my TV from RV over the winter. Never had any issues.
I always leave a roll of paper towels in the cupboard under the sink area. "Just" in case we do have a couple of unwanted guests checking in over the cold months.
It'll save your cushions when they try to make a nest.
I learned this tip by accident during my first year of ownership.
Now with all the precautions taken and deterents I still make sure to leave a roll of paper towels in the cupboard at floor level.

rockfordroo · 10-25-2016, 10:05 AM

I've seen enough posts here saying people leave them in the RV for the winter (and I've done it for 4 yrs), and I've yet to see a post where someone said the tv failed to operate after being in the RV for the winter.

So I'll keep leaving mine in the RV.

I'm also pretty sure there's design margin in the temperature limits given above (as we routinely exceed them here in Illinois).

If you're not comfortable with that, by all means, take it out.

Drenjoey · 10-25-2016, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rockfordroo

I've seen enough posts here saying people leave them in the RV for the winter (and I've done it for 4 yrs), and I've yet to see a post where someone said the tv failed to operate after being in the RV for the winter.

So I'll keep leaving mine in the RV.

I'm also pretty sure there's design margin in the temperature limits given above (as we routinely exceed them here in Illinois).

If you're not comfortable with that, by all means, take it out.

Same here, and we're in Maine. It can be very cold.......
Never took the tvs (Samsung) out of the camper, and never had problems.

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