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Old 08-13-2015, 08:26 AM   #71
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Anyone looked into the new Generac iQ2000? I just saw a mention on an Expedition Portal. We're probably not in the market for an inverter/generator until next Spring. But if this can hold up like a Honda (only time will tell) it might be a decent alternative?
Before I bought my Honda, I looked at just about every low cost option out there.... being a little "cheap", I just didn't want to pay the cost. Anyway, I found a significant amount of people that were very disappointed with the Generac inverters generators.

I thought about giving the Ryobi from Home Depot a try, but reviews seemed to suggest that they are problematic, too. It seemed to me that the only "low cost" option that was reasonably viable was Champion.... and even they seemed to have issues if you needed parts and/or service. I was going to buy a Champion (or two to run parallel) when my wife told me to stop playing around and get a Honda or Yamaha. I think she was just sick of talking about generators. Our Honda has been flawless so far, but this is our first season, and it only has about 60hrs on it. No complaints, though, quiet, powerful enough, and reliable for our needs.

Good luck on your decision!
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Old 08-13-2015, 02:47 PM   #72
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Half the price for the Champion. But most likely half the life. Half the resale. Plus its louder. I personally have spent the money and went with the Honda. I picked the 3000. The only other company choice would be a Yamaha.
i think you're thinking of the non-inverter Champion.

the 3100 is nearly as quiet as a Honda or Yamaha inverter generator, though the Honda 3000 is the quiet champ in generators.

there's a current thread about a 3100 review. if i was in the market, i'd buy the 3100 in a snap. it is way cheaper than the Honda 2000 and will easily start 13.5k a/c's.
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Half the price for the Champion. But most likely half the life. Half the resale. Plus its louder. I personally have spent the money and went with the Honda. I picked the 3000. The only other company choice would be a Yamaha.
Honda definitely holds the Top Spot in Portable and Inverter Generators. Yamaha comes in second. Then, most folks will place Champion as 3rd, with the rest falling somewhere a good bit lower on the List.

Sure, Champion is made in China (so are most the Honda and Yamaha models), while some of the Also-Rans are now sourced further into SE Asia. But if you read through several of the Blogs of Generator Critics who have kept up on Champion, one will learn that they actually have their own staff on-site in the Chinese Factories as well as a Parts/Service group in the USA who have significant Inventory and Expertise (instead of just parting-out other broken Genies).
Yes, the Champion 2000-series Inverter is Half-the-Price, but it is by no means Half-the-Quality nor Half-the-Capability.
Yes, I OWN and USE a pair of Champion 73536i 2000W Generators...
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Old 08-13-2015, 04:08 PM   #74
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i think you're thinking of the non-inverter Champion.

the 3100 is nearly as quiet as a Honda or Yamaha inverter generator, though the Honda 3000 is the quiet champ in generators.

there's a current thread about a 3100 review. if i was in the market, i'd buy the 3100 in a snap. it is way cheaper than the Honda 2000 and will easily start 13.5k a/c's.

You are correct in your review of the Champion 3100I. I have used mine for over 3 years even in the winter at minus 10 F, running all night. They are a great product at a great price. The Honda is a good generator but WAY over priced. You could buy a few Champions for the price of a Honda. I was sold on the Honda and wanted one bad until I discovered the Champion. I now no longer wish I had a Honda. To each their own.
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there's a current thread about a 3100 review. if i was in the market, i'd buy the 3100 in a snap. it is way cheaper than the Honda 2000 and will easily start 13.5k a/c's.
The 3100 is a Work-Site Generator, not made to run Integrated Circuit electronics such as your TVs nor many of the modern "Digital Motor"-driven appliances. And it isn't in the same league as the Honda 2000 when it comes to Noise...
It will, however, run your 13.5k or even most 15k ACs...
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The 3100 is a Work-Site Generator, not made to run Integrated Circuit
there is a 3100 watt Champion that is an inverter on the market

http://www.amazon.com/Champion-Power...rter+generator
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I am measuring about 10.6 amps with my Kill-a-Watt meter with my 13.5 AC unit on. I cannot measure startup current. Anybody know what startup amperage is?
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Westinghouse for me. I have 2 2200 watt units with a paralleling adapter. Quiet and easy starting. They have an eco mode that slows the engine down when demand is low- I really don't care for that mode though. They are light enough to carry and they seem to be pretty tough. They run a little over half what the equivalent Honda units do and have the same or better specs and warranty.
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I am measuring about 10.6 amps with my Kill-a-Watt meter with my 13.5 AC unit on. I cannot measure startup current. Anybody know what startup amperage is?
Typically inrush current is 3-5 times running current but most AC's have a "soft start" feature that drops that down significantly. You would need pretty special measuring equipment to catch the transient.
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The 3100 is a Work-Site Generator, not made to run Integrated Circuit electronics such as your TVs nor many of the modern "Digital Motor"-driven appliances. And it isn't in the same league as the Honda 2000 when it comes to Noise...
It will, however, run your 13.5k or even most 15k ACs...

The Champion 3100I is an invertor generator works well with our laptops and other devices, and is certainly in the league with a Honda. I paid $600. for mine.
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