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Old 06-28-2016, 02:43 PM   #41
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Don't forget resale values.. Sure you are spending some more up front for the diesel, but compare resale values on used 3/4 and 1 ton gassers to diesels.. in some areas you can't give away a HD gasser.
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I'll give you that one shorthorn. A fine point.
That "area" you mentioned must be Texas. I saw more Ford diesels in that state than any other on a recent cross country trip. Just an observation.
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I'll give you that one shorthorn. A fine point.
That "area" you mentioned must be Texas. I saw more Ford diesels in that state than any other on a recent cross country trip. Just an observation.
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I am sure Texas is that way too... I am familiar with the Central Illinois area... I see gassers sitting on lots... Diesels literally are flying off the lots around here.
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3 weeks ago the local Ford dealer had a total of 12 F250s & F350s....only one was a gasser. Sales manager said they just dont sell here.
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Here's my two cents worth. I'm towing with a 2013 Dodge 3/4 ton, 5.7L Gasoline , 6 speed trans. I'm towing 14,100# 38 foot, Silverback fifth wheel. Last year we drove from just south of Houston to Alaska, July to October. Putting 14020 miles on my truck. Over all I was getting 9.2 MPG. That whole trip I never had a problem feeling that I was under-powered.
If you have the extra $$$ for a diesel.... fine. But I'll put my Ram 5.7L up against your diesel. By the way I have had both.
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Challenge excepted Gene... when, where, what is the stakes?

5.7s Hemis are great motors, but come on... it can't hang with a diesel in any criteria except initial cost.
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I am familiar with the Central Illinois area... I see gassers sitting on lots... Diesels literally are flying off the lots around here.

I am in Southern Illinois and to find a 2500 gasser on any lot is nearly impossible here. Must be purely geographical.

Matter of fact, this past Friday I was at the dealership where I purchased my 1500 inquiring about used 2500 gassers. NO LUCK! Hard to find in this area, people are hanging onto them.

So once again, it must be purely geographical with the "want" and "need" for these trucks. But then again, this is farming country. I see more gassers than diesels on the road here.
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Around here Diesels do not seem to sell... Gassers are a dime a dozen.
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Around here Diesels do not seem to sell... Gassers are a dime a dozen.
Dime a dozen....that's resale value right??
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Dime a dozen....that's resale value right??
Right... I wish!
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Here's my story - we tow about 5k-6k miles a year as we take week long trips several times a year. A diesel would be ideal. BUT I only drive 2 miles a day and maybe 50 city miles on weekend. That killed the diesel idea. Having said that I am real happy with my gasser.
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Well, I ran out of popcorn, so here's my thoughts:

My local GM dealer has 20 Silverado 2500's on his lot. 3 diesel, 17 gas. He also has 17 GMC Sierra 2500's on the lot. 2 diesel and 15 gas.

Now you could say he's got that many gassers because they're not selling, but I highly doubt he would have that many on his lot if they weren't. He couldn't handle the finance charges for that many for that long and would be giving them away to get down to only a few.

Might be unfair, and my opinion may be out of date, but I think diesels are more popular in the warmer climates than up north. I know folks that used to have problems with starting their diesels in the wintertime. They're also probably more popular in mountainous states. If I pull in the mountains all the time, I can see the need for a diesel would be higher, but if I'm only going to do mountains a few times (or none at all), why would I spend the money?

Plus, not everyone can spring for the extra $7K or so, even if they're going to get it back (in 4 or 5 or 6 yrs). Everybody's situation is different.

As Suze Orman says: Some people spend money on things they don't need to impress people they don't know.
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I'll add to KMP. My payload for a 2500 LTZ Duramax 4 door short bed is 2450lbs. I do not know what the same truck in gas would be but I am sure over 3,000.
My nephew has a 2500 4x4 quad cab HD Chevy has 34xx payload. I cannot remember the exact number but I was surprised it was that high for a 2500.
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I paid the same for my diesel as the equivalent gassers cost.

But the discussion is probably about 3/4 tons only. I don't think I can get my dually truck in a gas model. I suspect there is a reason. But I'm no gearhead.

But even on the 3/4 ton, the dealer I got mine from now has 141 diesel 2500's and 76 gas 2500's on the lot as of today.

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The payload on my GREAT 2500 diesel I traded in was 2,286.
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Don't believe the "diesels are WAAYY more expensive to maintain" hype from non diesel owners.

http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ce-108727.html

That is all fine if you don't have your dealer do it. I have better things to do with the little bit of free time I have than screwing around changing oil etc in a truck.

F250 Gasser & liters of oil at the Ford dealership $55.00 and a full inspection of the truck, top up of all fluids.
F350 Diesel God knows how many liters of oil $145.00 at the same dealer. $270.00 to have the fuel filters changed.

I get one oil change a year because of time not hitting the miles required so it would be the same on a diesel so the math says it would cost me $360.00 a year more to maintain a diesel than a gasser. That is not an insignificant amount of money unless you have a money tree in your back yard.
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I am looking to upgrade from my 1/2 ton Silverado towing a wet weight of 7200lbs to a 3/4 ton. Which does everyone prefer? Most important thing for me is difference in gas mileage. Take one big trip a year and the rest are just an hour or so to local lakes and campgrounds.
Before picking 1 ton instead of a ¾ ton check to see is annual safety inspections are required. In some jurisdictions a 1 ton is considered a commercial vehicle and an annual safety is required. I gave had 4 Ram 2500s would never go back to gas. ¾ tons or 1 tons add a great deal of safety when pulling in high winds or having to stop in a hurray. The power of the diesel gets you up big hills without overheating, better mileage and even cheaper fuel in some places but most importantly gives you the power to "power out" of some situations when the fool passing you can't pull it off safely.
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Challenge excepted Gene... when, where, what is the stakes?

5.7s Hemis are great motors, but come on... it can't hang with a diesel in any criteria except initial cost.
I will take some of that action and I have a manual transmission equal load and road
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Challenge excepted Gene... when, where, what is the stakes?

5.7s Hemis are great motors, but come on... it can't hang with a diesel in any criteria except initial cost.

Me too!!
My sabre weighs bout the same. I'll let you drive it anytime.
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