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Old 09-06-2015, 11:36 PM   #31
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I have FR Wolf Pack I spent the winter 5200' in Philipsburg, MT. two years ago(I won't do it again if I can help it) I found that anything under 22 deg. you are going to lose your water( I don't know if my tanks are heated or not) at 36" below you will have ice in the sink with the heater running full bore. The trailer is good to about 20-22 deg. I go south now to AZ.
What were you think'n?
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Old 09-07-2015, 04:54 AM   #32
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I have FR Wolf Pack I spent the winter 5200' in Philipsburg, MT. two years ago(I won't do it again if I can help it) I found that anything under 22 deg. you are going to lose your water( I don't know if my tanks are heated or not) at 36" below you will have ice in the sink with the heater running full bore. The trailer is good to about 20-22 deg. I go south now to AZ.
Your a smart man, FR doesn't make a true 4 season trailer nor will they ever. If someone is looking for a 4 season trailer they better start looking at Arctic Fox or something. 2"walls can't hold enough installation. If you look at the spec sheets and construction it's plain to see why. They have tried that spray on foam that just falls off and half the water pipes where missed along the edge. At least of the one I saw.....
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Old 09-07-2015, 10:01 AM   #33
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I have a register in the sidewall of the belly that is connected to a 2" duct. Also the heat tape is located at the three vales, so they will not freeze. FR doesn't do anything the same. They come on when I put the tank heaters on.You can even see the tape wrapped on my gray water from the galley the rest are in the belly..
I think you are right about FR not doing anything the same! Seems like no two trailers leave there equipped the same, LO! The heat tape around the valves might be a good idea even though they shouldn't freeze because water would only be there when we are empting a tank. The only one I think I might need is on the gallery drain line. If most of the drain is in the underbelly I might not need it there, got to look at it.

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Old 09-07-2015, 10:16 AM   #34
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2010 Rockwood 8280 (rear kitchen) has water pump in bottom cabinet next to fridge inside. Also has dedicated 4" furnace duct into pass-thru. Has heated tanks, but not protection on dump pipes or valves.
I wish my pump was inside of a cabinet like yours. Mine is located in the pass thru storage area. The piping comes straight up from the FW tank to the pump, then up next to the bedroom floor. Then goes across to the bathroom sink and outside shower. From the sink it goes towards the back into the shower stall.

Don't think a tape is really needed on the valves but might be nice on the drain pipe, depending on how much of it is exposed.

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Old 09-07-2015, 10:22 AM   #35
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Will be interesting to hear about those going to Alaska and how they adapt to unknown conditions....power/cold/tires/fuel.......money spent in prep, and trip.
I agree, it would be interesting. Want to know what works and what doesn't.

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Old 09-07-2015, 06:19 PM   #36
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What were you think'n?
My truck kept breaking down and left me stranded in Philipsburg, MT. I was trying to go south. Have a newer truck now. OH P.S. My pump did freeze up but it did not hurt it, it broke the water filter, and my toilet valve.
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Like going to bed and gett'n up in morn to find it snowed during night....not like that makes noise! I had a regulator go bad that night....had to warm up in truck....lucky nothing but me froze.
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Bring it out here where we have real winter, the fourth season, and then let me know how it works out.
Fourth season??? Can't be! There's only two seasons on the prairies!
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I wish my pump was inside of a cabinet like yours. Mine is located in the pass thru storage area. The piping comes straight up from the FW tank to the pump, then up next to the bedroom floor. Then goes across to the bathroom sink and outside shower. From the sink it goes towards the back into the shower stall.

Don't think a tape is really needed on the valves but might be nice on the drain pipe, depending on how much of it is exposed.

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The only thing that keeps the water staying in is the valve itself, so water could freeze the valve being it having constant water from gray or black against it. I would think it is standard on any heated tank option. But you know FR. NEVER the same....
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Noth'n say'n the pump has to stay there.
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