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Old 07-06-2012, 04:23 PM   #1
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Any issues with short bed and 5th wheel combo?

I have a Silverado 1500 ext cab short bed.
Am considering a light weight 5th wheel.
I'll be right at 1000 LBS under my max tow weight.

I may try that combo but wonder if a short bed is a problem for
a 30' total length 5th wheel?
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:29 PM   #2
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Shouldn't be a problem as long as you use a slider hitch.
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:31 PM   #3
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I have a Silverado 1500 ext cab short bed.
Am considering a light weight 5th wheel.
I'll be right at 1000 LBS under my max tow weight.

I may try that combo but wonder if a short bed is a problem for
a 30' total length 5th wheel?
Is your short bed 5.5 or 6.5 feet?

The limiting factor won't be the max tow weight...it'll be the payload capacity of the truck.

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Yeah I forgot they are putting the 5.5 bed on the ext cab. If thats the case then no.
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I have a Silverado 1500 ext cab short bed.
Am considering a light weight 5th wheel.
I'll be right at 1000 LBS under my max tow weight.

I may try that combo but wonder if a short bed is a problem for
a 30' total length 5th wheel?
I have an ext cab with the 6.5' bed and pull a 12 Flagstaff 8528RKWS and a regular Reese 16K non slider hitch. The trailer came with the Reese Revolution Sidewinder and works great. Can turn over 90° and the cab clears just fine. I really like the Sidewinder as it allows me to use a modified full cover hard tonneau cover while towing.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:10 PM   #6
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Pretty sure my bed's a 6'6" will measure in the morning.
Also the trailer I'm looking at is a
KZ sportsman KZ Recreational Vehicles: Sportsmen® S265RK
S265RK 30' end to end.
12'3" tall
Dry total wt 7230 I figure no more than 8000 loaded- maybe a little less?
hitch wt 1310 so I've got plenty of cargo wt to spare.
My towing capacity is 8800 or 8900 I have to go refresh my memory
by reading the manual.

We're looking to up our away time dramatically in a year.
My truck has only 44000 mi on it.
Garage kept looks brand new.
Trade in is only about $10,000
New Chevy 2500 with big gas V8 looks like around $34,000 the way I'd
want it.
I know diesels pull harder and get a little better MPG but they cost so
much more. The Chevy 2500 v8 gas can tow up to 13,000 with the 4.10 rear end.

I'm tempted to try it with my truck first. This is a nice little 2 person
5er with a fairly big slide in the living area so it's doable for the 2 of us
a couple months at a time I think.

Just dreaming at the moment but I'm gonna try to find one of the KZs to
walk thru. You can only tell so much from pictures!
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You'll be borderline on the cargo capacity. Dry pin weight is 1310lbs. Loaded pin weight you'll be close to 1500lbs not counting what you have in truck and weight capacity it's only 1700lbs & some change on the 1500.
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That 4:10 in the V8 will kill your gas mileage, I had one and pulling a 33 Puma TT I could only get 8.5 out of it. Just something to keep in mind, some times it is pay now or pay later and a lot of travel at only 8.5 per will add up fast. But it does pull great.
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Dan, a good place to start is to weigh your truck, full of gas, passengers, ready to camp. Add 175 lbs for a hitch. That way you'll see how much payload you have left by GVWR or by RAWR. You may be surprised by how little payload capacity you have.

With a 6.5' box (now that I think of it, I don't believe that the extended cabs came with a 5.5') you should be okay with a sliding hitch or a Reese Sidewinder pinbox.

I'm surprised that you're not looking at a Rockwood 8280WS or Flagstaff 8528RKWS. Nicer with 2 recliners, but I'm a little biased. Ours weighed 1240 lb pin and 8300 lbs total loaded when we towed it with a Ram 1500.

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Old 07-07-2012, 08:20 AM   #10
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Dave, as far as weight goes--
My current numbers at a CAT scale recently. We were loaded with
half tank water, full LP, full food, gear headed for the camp ground.
Steer axle 3100
Drive axle 3000
Trailer axles 3840
Gross/total 9940 US pounds
This is with my WD hitch hooked up.
I lowered the front tongue jack just enough to get off the ball
and the Steer axle went down to 2800 but total didn't change of course!
This include wife and me on the scales!

MY next thread was going to be asking about "lightweight" 5ers so I'd
not be starting totally cold looking at models.

FYI we looked at a KZ trailer at an RV show and then later at the dealer
lot early this year. I was impressed with the fit/finish and workmanship
on the KZ. It is a family owned company. Not many of those around
anymore. I'd read here where some folks pulled the slide seal rubber back
on their Forest River slides and found bare wood. Any water that leaked
past the slide would go right into the wall.
The KZ slide cut out was totally sealed.
I hope others made by various Forest River brands are sealed also!!

I'm going to look into the Flagstaff 8528RKWS right now.

I'll probably start a new thread asking for suggestions for light 5th wheels.
Wife has demanded a larger bathroom on the next one.
I have to admit the one we have now is very small.

Thanks everyone for the comments and new ideas!
Guess we're still looking!
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