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Old 08-20-2015, 01:30 PM   #21
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Hello everybody,
QUALITY of our toys depending on US only.
All manufacturers playing with us, we have a power to teach them a lesson.
Take the photos of every wrong thing and file the Lemon.
After hundreds or thuousands claims are start resolving and our toys returning to the manufacturers, quality of their product will go where need to be .....
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Old 08-20-2015, 01:43 PM   #22
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Lots of great discussion on the quality of our rv industry. Would be nice to see a complete turnaround in quality or a new manufacturer step in and start producing high end quality trailers that aren't sitting on lots with defects from the factory.

At this point I think folks will take their business else where if a proven manufacturer steps to the plate producing high quality trailers. I for one would pay more if i knew there were quality standards in place versus just shipping low quality trailers at a premium price.
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Old 08-20-2015, 01:58 PM   #23
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Ksilvi ... I totally agree about the lack of quality in new units ... I own one that has had more issues straight from the factory than my last 3 SOB's combined. However ... you refer to a grey tank valve being inside the underbelly. Since my 2000 SOB to my current Silverback, all holding tank valves were inside the underbelly. That's how designers accomplish year round livability in these units. Plumbing hanging out in winter months would quickly freeze.
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Old 08-20-2015, 02:02 PM   #24
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Obviously FR is owned by some other (bigger) corporation that doesn't give a hoot and that corporation is owned by someone else. If my memory serves me correctly, FR is ultimately owned by the richest man in the USA. He owns some type of investment company. I just can't remember his name. To make this short, that gentleman should be copied on every email (when we locate his address), receive a copy of every letter of complaint and be bombarded with phone calls about the poor construction and quality control at FR. Remember, s--t flows down hill. What do you say people? It's time for a little rebellion!
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Old 08-20-2015, 02:07 PM   #25
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No need for QC

Right now, every RV manufacturer is selling every RV they make and cannot keep up with demand. Thus, there is no incentive to instigate any real level of QC.
Rather than spend time/money on rigorous QC, the manufacturers rely on customers doing the QC in terms of finding the problem, which they then claim they will fix under warranty.
But, as many posters know, buyers are often hundreds of miles from their selling dealer and either rely on a local dealer making warranty repairs (though many (most?) dealers who did not sell an RV are reluctant to do warranty service) or, as others in this thread have said, owners would rather make repairs themselves whenever possible because they don't simply want the problem to be fixed back to its original condition because it was lousy design/build in the first place!
Using this strategy, the manufacturer saves big bucks in terms of factory time doing QC, and/or making repairs under warranty.
The situation will not change until some kind of federal regulation is put into place a la automobile industry, or, as one poster suggested, one RV manufacturer takes the moral responsibility of building a truly quality product at a competitive price. Buyers would flock to that product!, and, after all, it only takes a little more effort to do the job right the first time.
In the meantime, it's best to hone your carpentry, electrical, plumbing, and mechanical skills. I have learned more than I ever thought I wanted to know about RV's in the last five years, and have decided it's all just part of the great adventure we call camping!
Happy Trails!, and
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Old 08-20-2015, 02:34 PM   #26
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Obviously FR is owned by some other (bigger) corporation that doesn't give a hoot and that corporation is owned by someone else. If my memory serves me correctly, FR is ultimately owned by the richest man in the USA. He owns some type of investment company. I just can't remember his name. To make this short, that gentleman should be copied on every email (when we locate his address), receive a copy of every letter of complaint and be bombarded with phone calls about the poor construction and quality control at FR. Remember, s--t flows down hill. What do you say people? It's time for a little rebellion!
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Old 08-20-2015, 02:41 PM   #27
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I wanted to add a additional 15a circuit breaker to the panel so I took the cover off to access the breakers and found a ground wire lug that had been tightened down so much that they actually cut the wire with the lug. Also two other lugs were so tight i stripped the head of the lugs trying to get them loose. Seems to me their just careless with no QC.
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Old 08-20-2015, 02:44 PM   #28
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Old 08-20-2015, 02:46 PM   #29
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I basically agree with Jim34RL, you need to design quality IN, not thru inspections. I am generally very please with my 2015 Columbus 320RS as well. A few small things but none the less aggravating all the same. My dealer told me, you will have issues, they all have issues and while I appreciate his honesty, it is not very reassuring.
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Old 08-20-2015, 03:29 PM   #30
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Speaking from experience almost all these cabinets are particle board. I used to install store fixtures if torque is set wrong they will strip out, likewise if not heavy it won't tighten bolts or taps. Once they clutch slipping they are do ne with it. As for other issues like you said no quality control and most employees don't care or take any pride in their workmanship.
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