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Old 08-20-2015, 05:30 PM   #41
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Interesting...My Windjammer was built there at Millersburg, too, and there have few very few issues with it. Tip of the hat to the Millersburg plant!
Well I have had a Rockwood popup, Rockwood TT and now a Greywolf TT. We have not had any issues as described above. So I have posted here some what complaining but I really cannot. I am handy and willing to work on the small things. I guess we also must have been very lucky with our purchases.

But I do agree, people want everything perfect, now and free. But in their defense the sticker said my MSRP was some $35,000 (complete BS IMO) that I could by for $20,000 something. For 35 grand they can at least look like they thought out the way they build them. I understand things go wrong, it is a shed / house on wheels rocketing down a road. But with that said, it is a house on wheels rocking down the road.... Brad nails do not work! LOL

But I just accept the fact that this is what it is and buy screws that match the paint color and just start replacing things. I caulk the 1/4" gaps between my shower enclosure and move the door knob so it actually lines up with the door frame (off by 1") and re-seal the seams they seem to have forgotten about.

But, with all that I will still keep buying FR because it is how they all seem to be. This is the standard that is apparently acceptable, at least as of now.
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Old 08-20-2015, 05:38 PM   #42
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ya VERN thats kinda whats happened with ours. I've never had a $34,000 hobby before.
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Old 08-20-2015, 05:50 PM   #43
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ya VERN thats kinda whats happened with ours. I've never had a $34,000 hobby before.
Yep, it is a lot of money...still, I get more enjoyment than I deserve out of it (despite the imperfections), AND an education to boot (thanks to the imperfections)!
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:16 PM   #44
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Yep, it is a lot of money...still, I get more enjoyment than I deserve out of it (despite the imperfections), AND an education to boot (thanks to the imperfections)!
I agree. I have close to a month total so far this spring and summer in our trailer and over 4,000 miles this year alone on long weekend trips and such. I have enjoyed every second of it. Then with this forum, the great people here, and the work I have done (and learned how to do from here and youtube) I have also gotten more enjoyment out of this than one should be allowed. I try not to let the little stuff bug me, just roll with it and get it done!
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:23 PM   #45
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:38 PM   #46
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I have replaced #4 screws with #8s as one #4 can't hold the entire drawer assembly. The cabinets are hitting each other and the caulked nail holes drive me crazy. My next unit will get a thorough inspection on delivery.
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:59 PM   #47
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I agree with most in that it is both a build and QC problem in all the industry.
Some manufacturers are worse than others. Things like brades into aluminum is a design issue. On my TT, the FM antenna was mounted about 8 inches from the TV antenna. Each time the TV antenna turns it hits the FM antenna. I have drawer that will not close. Bad drawer track. Unacceptable. These things are not checked either during the build or QC. Both a design and QC problem. The one poster said that his black water pull handle mounted inside the TT. These things should not be. QC should catch these kind of things.
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:06 PM   #48
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It is regrettable that many do not make the effort or take the time to become acquainted with or develop the competencies to personally judge the quality or construction when selecting and purchasing an RV.
We bought our very first TT last year (used) but before purchasing it I spent over 4 hours checking it out - 2 hours during heavy rains plus another 2.5 hours during a thorough PDI. This is after I passed-up many NEW TT's that did not pass my inspections... In the lots I viewed the same brand/model/year but one unit was clearly built better than the other. Therefore I will never "order" a unit sight unseen & I will certainly not buy one out-of-state & have it delivered to my driveway sight-unseen.... Our local dealers have competitive prices so I'm not going to take a chance ordering it from a wholesaler just to save a couple grand...
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:13 PM   #49
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I think we all get what we pay for. These units are not that expensive when you consider the amount of work and materials that go into making one of these. I would challenge anyone to hire someone to build them an RV and see what that bill is. Then compare it to a like unit.

I think we are all getting a great deal.

I think we all need to remember that these are houses on wheels. And houses need constant maintenance and repairs.

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Old 08-20-2015, 11:41 PM   #50
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Dear Forest River, Why is Quality Control non-existent?!

It's amazing that paying $25-35k for a camper, taking it on a few trips then spending hours to repair things that are built wrong or fall apart, that seems to be ok?

But pay $25-35k for your daily driver vehicle and take it home and work on it (if you could) for CC issues. Would everyone think that's ok?

I have a automotive background and enjoy restoring old cars and campers.
But I don't want to repair something I bought as "new" that's not 30 plus years old.

Just a thought.


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