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Old 09-23-2011, 01:03 PM   #1
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Dear RVGuy & SabreSam, et al

Dear RVGuy and SabreSam, et al

Since you are the only 2 factory reps that I know of who have identified yourselves as such I would like to make a suggestion for product improvement.

The issue is the strength and ability of the rear bumper to carry bigger loads. I am specifically referring to the ability to carry bicycles attached to the rear bumper. I know that some products you represent will have that ability, but since I address this to you, I am hoping that other brands, who may also be following this forum, will take note and offer this upgrade. I am fully aware that other consumers may want upgrades to other components in the RV, but this is one that seems to have garnered a lot of attention.

I understand the rationale for lightweight bumpers but it is quite evident from the numerous posts on this forum that a large number of consumers would like to have this upgrade. I am not an engineer but it cannot be too difficult to engineer and fabricate a worthy enough bumper to carry the load.

Lets see if this thread will get the feedback I think it deserves and will give you an indication that this is worthwhile to investigate. If I am wasting my breath and time, I can take that feedback as well.
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:10 PM   #3
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X3... One reason for purchasing a TT was to enjoy family time away from all the hustle and bustle. One great family activity is bike riding... My family of 5 would definitely appreciate an opportunity to ride bikes on trails etc when we go out. However, I have yet to find a workable solution for hauling bikes. I've looked at the frame attached to the tongue, but a factory option would be much better.
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Old 09-23-2011, 02:11 PM   #4
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My 2011 sabre has a "platform "/"bike rack" factory installed with a 450 lb. Weight rating.
I do not know if id trust the rating but since they say it will do it I have to assume it will.
I should take pics. And post them
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:46 PM   #5
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My 2011 sabre has a "platform "/"bike rack" factory installed with a 450 lb. Weight rating.
I do not know if id trust the rating but since they say it will do it I have to assume it will.
I should take pics. And post them


That's what I'm talking about. Should be a standard item.
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Old 09-24-2011, 11:30 AM   #6
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the problem with at least TTs, is that they don't have shocks.
and no matter how sturdy the bumper is, a bike rack hanging out from a bumper attachment will bounce.
you'll get forces pulling down and back.

this will cause eventual failure of the welds or the rack.
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Old 09-24-2011, 04:30 PM   #7
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Dear rugged brown
I do understand. Sabres rear bike rack is one of our most popular features.
Thanks for the input.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:19 AM   #8
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Rugged - thanks for putting this out there for feedback. We will continue to monitor the forum for these types of valuable learning opportunities.
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Old 10-10-2011, 08:03 PM   #9
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The issue is the strength and ability of the rear bumper to carry bigger loads. I am specifically referring to the ability to carry bicycles attached to the rear bumper. I know that some products you represent will have that ability, but since I address this to you, I am hoping that other brands, who may also be following this forum, will take note and offer this upgrade. I am fully aware that other consumers may want upgrades to other components in the RV, but this is one that seems to have garnered a lot of attention.
For the sake of discussion, I'm also a factory rep (for the Wildcat brand). Based on consumer input like yours, every Wildcat fifth wheel includes an integrated 2Ē receiver hitch for easy accessory add-ons like a bike rack or tandem towing capability. The receiver, which is built into the frame, will support up to 300 lbs. on the tongue with a 3000 lb. maximum towing capacity. It also offers flexibility for each Wildcat owners custom use...

Thanks for your input!
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to the 3 of you, from what i know, none of the Sabres nor Wildcats are considered "ultra-lite" trailers, which have this particular issue.
neither of them are listed on the company websites under the ultra-light or lite-weight sections.

this issue has to do with ultralite/lite-weight trailers and their lighter frame members not being strong enough to handle a bouncing fulcrum, with up to 200lbs. on it.
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