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Old 06-13-2015, 10:49 AM   #21
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The instructions on my Alko's say jack and turn wheel slowly while slowly pumping grease.


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"There is no need to lift the trailer before greasing axles equipped with Ultralube." This is a direct quote from an AL-KO manual I got with my 08 5th wheel.

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Old 06-14-2015, 09:30 AM   #22
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"There is no need to lift the trailer before greasing axles equipped with Ultralube." This is a direct quote from an AL-KO manual I got with my 08 5th wheel.

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May not be required but I feel better rotating the tire while I slowly add grease till I see bright red grease. I do this twice a year using 1 tube of Nitro Red each time.


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Old 06-22-2015, 08:59 AM   #23
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Lucas Blue versus Red Grease

This spring, because we will put on 12000 Km this summer, I pulled all the wheels on my Wildcat T28RKS , replaced the seals , checked brake wear and hand packed with Lucas Blue WB grease. I also have grease fittings in the hub end and would like to fill up that center cavity a bit for heat sink purposes. Also very concerned about over greasing and pushing through the back seal. Can't find the blue in a standard grease cartridge....only in a container. Would it be OK to mix Lucas blue and red or is that a Lucas tech question?
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Personally I would not mix the two, I would just hand pack my grease gun yes it is messy and slow but is the better option.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:08 AM   #25
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This spring, because we will put on 12000 Km this summer, I pulled all the wheels on my Wildcat T28RKS , replaced the seals , checked brake wear and hand packed with Lucas Blue WB grease. I also have grease fittings in the hub end and would like to fill up that center cavity a bit for heat sink purposes. Also very concerned about over greasing and pushing through the back seal. Can't find the blue in a standard grease cartridge....only in a container. Would it be OK to mix Lucas blue and red or is that a Lucas tech question?
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Before tubes were available, we had to hand fill the guns. I have in desperation, refilled empty tubes. EXTREMELY messy job.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:26 AM   #26
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I keep track of my trailer mileage and if I reach 6000 miles within 2 years I have them repacked. If I don't make 6000 miles in two years I will have them repacked anyway. Later RJD Later RJD
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:51 PM   #27
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So does anyone know what exactly they're using on the Dexter axles from the factory? If I'm going to pump some grease into my bearings, I want to make sure that what I'm putting in there is compatible with what's already in there...so are they using low grade chassis grease, low end bearing grease, red stuff, or what?
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Old 06-25-2015, 01:37 AM   #28
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So does anyone know what exactly they're using on the Dexter axles from the factory? If I'm going to pump some grease into my bearings, I want to make sure that what I'm putting in there is compatible with what's already in there...so are they using low grade chassis grease, low end bearing grease, red stuff, or what?
Dexter recommends a Lithium Complex NLGI No 2 grease for their 600 to 8K lb axles. There are myriad manufacturers producing this type of grease and any number of them should be compatible with your factory fill. My choice would be the widely available Lucas Red 'N' Tacky, which I've mixed with Lithium based factory fills on a number of occasions.
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Dexter recommends a Lithium Complex NLGI No 2 grease for their 600 to 8K lb axles. There are myriad manufacturers producing this type of grease and any number of them should be compatible with your factory fill. My choice would be the widely available Lucas Red 'N' Tacky, which I've mixed with Lithium based factory fills on a number of occasions.
X'S 2 you could use any grease that meets there recommendation. I think the drop point also that they recommend is 440 degrees, Lucas Red is 540 degrees that is also what I have mixed. Have had no problems with Lucas.
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Dexter recommends a Lithium Complex NLGI No 2 grease for their 600 to 8K lb axles. There are myriad manufacturers producing this type of grease and any number of them should be compatible with your factory fill. My choice would be the widely available Lucas Red 'N' Tacky, which I've mixed with Lithium based factory fills on a number of occasions.
Red N Tacky is my choice as well, Pump till the old stuff is gone. The first time you do it you will need to fill the center of the axle, the space behind the rear bearing to the lip seal, and then space between the front and rear bearings.

It could take quite a bit before you know you are making progress. You will begin to fear you are dumping all that grease on your brake pads before you see the old dirty grease get pushed out. Continue pumping until it is all Red N Tacky.
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I don't think the black grease is "dirty", it's just a different color/brand. The first 2 years I "re-greased" thru the zerks, I just pumped Red N Tacky until the black grease started coming out. No ill effects. This year, I decided to replace cups, cones and seals. When I took the hubs off and inspected the conglomeration of grease, it was all smooth with no metal flakes. Installed the new cups and hand packed the cones, installed new double lip seals and then pumped the hubs until Red N Tacky appeared at the front.

I don't think Lippert would put bad grease in and it certainly cannot get dirty just being towed from the factory to the dealer and then to your home.
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I don't think the black grease is "dirty", it's just a different color/brand. The first 2 years I "re-greased" thru the zerks, I just pumped Red N Tacky until the black grease started coming out. No ill effects. This year, I decided to replace cups, cones and seals. When I took the hubs off and inspected the conglomeration of grease, it was all smooth with no metal flakes. Installed the new cups and hand packed the cones, installed new double lip seals and then pumped the hubs until Red N Tacky appeared at the front.

I don't think Lippert would put bad grease in and it certainly cannot get dirty just being towed from the factory to the dealer and then to your home.
You are right, just cause it is black does not make it dirty. However any time you get a new trailer such as the 08 5th wheel I got a few months ago I recommend greasing the bearings. I also like the red and tacky grease. What came out was pure black. The dealer could not tell me when they were done last or with what grade of grease. I could see nothing wrong with it but? It may have been standard automotive grease which is not good! It is common for this to be used but it doesn't meet manufactures specs. It breaks down at too low of a temperature. My old grease looked nice and clean but did it meet specs, who knows?

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Speaking of the purple grease, has anyone used "royal purple" grease ? I use the engine oil and other items and have always had good luck with their products. Just curious if anyone had used this, it's purple in color.
My first two years, I used Royal Purple. First time used numerous 14 or 13 oz tubes until only purple lube was coming out of the front. Thought my arm was going to fall off from all the pumping. Then added some each year. Put a few thousand miles on the trailer.

This year, since I replaced the brakes with a larger size I inspected the old bearings and races carefully and they look great. Kept the bearings for an emergency set that I carry in the trailer.

I did switch grease for the new bearings that came with the new brakes to Mobil 1 Full Synthetic Red. (I use Mobil 1 products when I can, but Royal Purple is good too. Just don't own any of their stock)
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You are right, just cause it is black does not make it dirty. However any time you get a new trailer such as the 08 5th wheel I got a few months ago I recommend greasing the bearings. I also like the red and tacky grease. What came out was pure black. The dealer could not tell me when they were done last or with what grade of grease. I could see nothing wrong with it but? It may have been standard automotive grease which is not good! It is common for this to be used but it doesn't meet manufactures specs. It breaks down at too low of a temperature. My old grease looked nice and clean but did it meet specs, who knows?

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In the case of a used trailer, I would recommend a complete cleaning and repacking, new seals, but on a brand new, off the dealers lot, just adding Red N Tacky should be good.
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In the case of a used trailer, I would recommend a complete cleaning and repacking, new seals, but on a brand new, off the dealers lot, just adding Red N Tacky should be good.
You are right but it is going to get very little use thus year and saw nothing to cause me any concern.

However, this fall when my health is better I will tear them completely apart and replace everything from brakes on out.

I did see one thing but am going to start a new thread on it.

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