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Old 08-12-2008, 08:58 PM   #11
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I started towing a 2004 KZ Sportster TT Toy Hauler, dry weith 6200 lbs plus 2-utility quads 1300 lbs, water 600 lbs, gear and equip 1000 lbs. It adds up fast, 9100 +-lbs.

TV was a Expedition with 4.6L, basically it was not a good combination I was over weigth from the get go by 2500 lbs. Hills were a drag 25 mph on the steepest in West Virginia but generally lost 15-25 mph on grades. I eneded up destroying the differential and spending $3000 with repairs, travel and car rentals etc.

I upgaded to a 2000 Excursion 7.3L diesel within 2 months after that experience. Excursion mileage at purchase 204k, moderately broken in, I have put 68K on it since xmas '05. I use hypertech tunner and Motor Latte fuel additive for increased cetane rating and a better fuel burn. Average fuel mileage towing 10.0 +-, before thetunner and fuel additive 8.0 mpg towing.

I just upgraded the transmission to a Jasper Monster Box but have yet to to with it. We now tow a new 2009 FR All American 28 XT the quads, water, 30 gallons of on board gas, equip etc and I estimate the gross trailer is 11,500 to 12,000. No problem for the Excursion.

If I were you I would strongly consider a new tow vehicle with more guts and capacities.

Good luck
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:42 PM   #12
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I too will chime in on the "you're not going to be happy" band wagon. Currently we tow with an '06 F-150 with the 5.4L engine and 3.73 rear end. It does have the tow package too and is "rated" for 9200 lbs with a WD hitch. We are towing a 2008 2701ss and it has a GVWR of 6500 lbs.

After using it for 7 trips this year all within 3 1/2 hours from home, I am starting to look at a 3/4 ton truck. We are in Illinos and have gone mostly to Wisconsin, so the hills might be considered moderate at best. I just feel like the truck is struggling up the hills more than I would want.

Not to mention, I am looking into a 250/2500 for the longer wheelbase. My trailer is 32.5 feet from ball to bumper and I think I am right on the cusp of having too short of a wheelbase. Best thing you can do is try it of course, but from on F-150 owner to another, you will be wanting to upgrade sooner rather than later.
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Old 02-06-2009, 04:30 PM   #13
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Gonna hate it!

I'v got an '03 F-150 SuperCrew w/ the 5.4L and I'm towing a 23' Wildwood, and you know it's back there! It's not awful, but I weigh in at a lot less (trailer is approx. 5500# loaded), and have the bigger engine (not a mine is bigger than your's statement). I surely wouldn't want to pull much more with it. I'm getting in the 10-12 MPG range with that setup, and towing is still comfortable.

I have to agree with others that you already know the answer and just need to make the jump. Otherwise you'll compromise your safety and that of others on the road, and go through tons of parts on the truck.

A broken down rig on the side of the road doesn't make for fun trips. It will just be the one that the family reminds you about every time you go to hitch up!
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:38 AM   #14
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The unhappy towing experience and safety concerns with that much weight pushing you around are paramount. I usually tow a 25' Jayco Jayfeather and it's a nice tow right around #5000 full including kids, dog, etc in a 2005 Expy 4x4 with 3.73 rear-end. Tow a 26' toy hauler and fill with dirt bikes and make the mistake of filling with 100 gallons of water and a simple blow-out can get real ugly....
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:33 AM   #15
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Man o man, glad you are OK.
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Old 06-04-2009, 09:30 AM   #16
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IMO, safety is key when towing a TT. I know that your setup is not very safe, it can be done but it is not safe. Your TV will suffer not only drivetrain problems, but suspension problems as well. If you decide to tow with your f150, I would not go anywhere far until you can upgrade the TV. You really need a 3/4 ton for this job, and it does not need to be a late model truck, specially if you go with a diesel.
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Old 06-04-2009, 03:18 PM   #17
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The International didn't turn out to be a bad TV, albeit the wrong direction and expensive!

Family was all ok but I was extremely shaken up. Girls just continued to watch Shrek and drink juice boxes.
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Just a small note from the Mopar side, my Ram Quad Cab 1500 Hemi (347ci.) OD auto. 3:54 rear has trouble pulling my V-lite-(not so lite), truck says it will pull 9800 lbs, gvwr of camper is 7575 lbs, 33.6 ft hitch ball to bumper. 7-9 mpg at best. 380 hp. Need more power, and stability. Upgrading to Bilstein shocks, as soon as they come in, and a different rear gear is ewhat I really need to do. Randy
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:57 PM   #19
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Mud,
I'm new to this whole TT thing myself (1st post, in fact). I recently purchased a Rockwood 8315BSS ultralite with a dry weight listed around 6400. I had a 2007 F-150 with the 4.6 liter engine and I believe the 3.55 rear end. I live in Texas with fairly flat terrain. I noticed just bringing the TT home from the dealer that my truck was struggling more than I expected. A few days later I took my first trip (about 300 miles round trip). "Ol Red" really struggled pulling Rocky (my wife's name for the TT). After getting back, I visited my Ford dealer to see what I could do to help the situation. Of course they recommended that I upgrade to either a new F-150 as it is supposed to tow more weight than my 2007 model or move on up to an F-250. They did say that I should, at least, add a tranny cooler if I insisted on staying with my 150. I ended up biting the bullet and trading ukp to the F-250. The maiden voyage was this past weekend and I was very happy with my new purchase. I felt like the F-150 would be lucky to last a year before having tranny problems. The F-250HD comes with the full tow package, including a tranny temp gauge right next to my engine temp gauge. I feel like I can now relax and enjoy my TT. I didn't feel that way before. I am now having the fun that I expected to have. Good luck on your decision.
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I'm new to this whole TT thing myself (1st post, in fact). I recently purchased a Rockwood 8315BSS ultralite with a dry weight listed around 6400. I had a 2007 F-150 with the 4.6 liter engine and I believe the 3.55 rear end. I live in Texas with fairly flat terrain. I noticed just bringing the TT home from the dealer that my truck was struggling more than I expected. A few days later I took my first trip (about 300 miles round trip). "Ol Red" really struggled pulling Rocky (my wife's name for the TT). After getting back, I visited my Ford dealer to see what I could do to help the situation. Of course they recommended that I upgrade to either a new F-150 as it is supposed to tow more weight than my 2007 model or move on up to an F-250. They did say that I should, at least, add a tranny cooler if I insisted on staying with my 150. I ended up biting the bullet and trading ukp to the F-250. The maiden voyage was this past weekend and I was very happy with my new purchase. I felt like the F-150 would be lucky to last a year before having tranny problems. The F-250HD comes with the full tow package, including a tranny temp gauge right next to my engine temp gauge. I feel like I can now relax and enjoy my TT. I didn't feel that way before. I am now having the fun that I expected to have. Good luck on your decision.
F-250 may have been overpriced overkill for you. The dirty little secret some Ford dealers tried to hide from me was the F-150 with the "max tow" package. Hard to find but I just bought one in July and it is rated to tow 11,500 lbs. Even has the transmission temp gauge! Similar to the base F-250 towing capacity with a smoother ride and lower price tag.
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