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Old 03-03-2012, 03:31 PM   #1
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Question How Much Weight?

I am looking at buying Palomino Puma 253-FBS. First, I need to buy a truck, and I am trying to decide how much truck I will need.

With a dry weight of 6910 lbs, the GVWR of 11,186 seems like it is much higher than I will need to plan on. Would it be reasonable to figure that the wife and I would not add more than about 1500 lbs. to the dry weight?

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Old 03-03-2012, 04:22 PM   #2
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I understand where you are coming from as I've been there myself. I rather not take risks so I opted for using the GVWR as a guide. I don't see getting close to my trailer GVWR especially with camping solo but I'm sitting pretty good in the event my set up weighs more than expected.
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:32 PM   #3
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you are in 3/4 ton territory, check the tow ratings for any truck you are interested in and see where you stand. Nobody ever got in trouble for using too much truck
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:39 PM   #4
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The limiter for towing 5th wheels is usually the payload capacity of the truck.

The dry pin weight of the Puma 253 FBS is listed as 1026 lbs. It's always hard to predict what the pin weight will be when the camper's loaded. By the floorplan, it looks like the majority of the camper's storage areas are between the axles and the king pin, therefore the pin weight loaded will grow quite a bit. It's safe to assume a loaded pin weight of about 1500 lbs.

With a loaded pin weight of 1500 lbs, the payload capacity of most half ton trucks would be exceeded (the TV's GVWR) and crowding if not over, the rear axle weight rating (RAWR). The exception would be the new F150 ordered with the max tow capacity (11,300 lbs) and max payload (GVWR 8200 lbs) options. Other than that, you're looking at a 3/4 ton truck, gas or diesel.

People usually recommend when purchasing, buy the truck for the next camper that you'll buy.

Good luck with your decision.

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Old 03-03-2012, 07:33 PM   #5
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I have a new V-Cross 275 5er, empty 7,791, GVWR 9,891 and pull it with a 2011 F250 longbed 2Wheel drive CC diesel and I would not pull it with a 1/2 ton truck.
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Old 03-03-2012, 07:50 PM   #6
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Make: Your choice
Model: Your choice as long it is 3/4 ton or larger.
Listen to the folks here that pull them. DON'T listen to the vehicle sales people.
The major thing to remember is will the TV stop the TT or can it contol it in a worst case scenario?
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:52 PM   #7
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Old 03-03-2012, 11:24 PM   #8
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Dry weight means nothing except to sucker people into buying something that they really should not be trying to tow with what they have.
Instead look at the trailers GVWR. While you may not load it that high, you stand a far better chance of hitting the GVWR that you ever will seeing the "dry" weight.
As for what to haul it with?
Get a 3/4 ton. No one has ever asked "do I have too much truck?" But there sure a lot of" is this truck sufficient?" questions posted on the forums. or that weight a gas motor will suffice, but a diesel will produce a more satisfying towing experience and also return better fuel economy. Your choice of brands.
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Thanks all. You have been most helpfull.

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Old 03-04-2012, 09:20 AM   #10
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The Ford Ecoboost with max payload would do fine with that camper, but a 3/4 ton would give you the ability to pull more camper if you decided to change.
The high GVWR on your camper simply means it has heavier axles than most. You would likely never even come close to that weight in a real-life situation.
Don't listen to the people who say that you "have to" do this or that.
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