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Old 02-04-2015, 11:42 PM   #81
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This guy is certainly overweight:

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Don't know the exact make/model of the TV, but he's got 4 passengers, probably cargo in the back, and the kayaks on the roof, plus the tongue weight of this travel trailer. Dangerous.

Thankfully he later upgraded to a 5th wheel and 1 ton truck.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:12 AM   #82
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This is what it says in the blog:
We already had the Kia Sorento with its tow rating of 5000 pounds, so it was really a question of purchasing an RV that would work with the Kia. With a dry weight of 4300, the first LBYL RV was right up to the limit when loaded, and the Kia’s short wheelbase gave us a good bit of trailer sway when towing above 50mph or when being passed by semi trucks, and that’s with weight distribution and anti-sway systems installed.

We picked that particular trailer (Wildwood XLite 26BHXL) because it was the only 26 foot bunkhouse on the market with a dry weight of less than 4500 pounds.

So yes he was over weight by quite a bit.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:28 AM   #83
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I passed a set up like that with a Tahoe the other day. With strong cross winds he had all that he could do to maintain 50mph and not wagging. I sure felt sorry for him.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:29 AM   #84
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I have to wonder if this picture has been photoshopped. I'm betting it was. A Silverback 29IK and a Toyota Tundra showing no squat. From an old issue of RV lifestyle magazine.

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Had to be photoshopped as there is NO squat on the tires.
(No load on the truck - same with the trailer; empty)
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Old 02-05-2015, 09:07 AM   #85
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We already had the Kia Sorento with its tow rating of 5000 pounds,
This is a perfect example of how people do not pay attention to the full story. Yes, the Sorento can "pull" 5,000 pounds. But it can only "carry" (payload) 1,250 pounds. Simple calcs:

Driver (adult): 180 lbs
Passenger (adult): 140 lbs
Passenger (child): 100 lbs
Passenger (child): 100 lbs
Two kayaks plus rack weight: 150 lbs
Some average luggage/bags in the back: 200 lbs
Minimum tongue weight for dry weight of 4300 lbs: 430 lbs
Add in a weight distributing hitch (50 lbs), propane (37 lbs), battery (50 lbs), etc: 120 lbs tongue weight
Let's assume another 100 lbs of tongue weight from loading the camper up

Minimum "payload" weight: 1,520 versus 1,250 rating.

As the kids grow, more stuff is packed, etc....the situation gets even worse.

How a cop/highway patrol officer could not pull over a Kia Sorento towing this giant travel trailer is beyond me. I would pull a pair of jet skis with a Kia.

And then there's the bike rack mounted behind. I wonder if those ever fell off (onto someone).
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Old 02-05-2015, 09:16 AM   #86
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I didn't read all the comments. But I think much of the issue lies in the confusion of dry weight vs GVWR on the trailer. Then the towing capacity, many don't know that doesn't include passengers, and a driver that's over the allotted weight and cargo. Then add tongue weight. Also some don't understand that the tow vehicle and trailer should be level. I've seen some pretty jacked up setups and it makes me cringe. Then there's the ones who tow far more than they should because of the dry weight. Ugh.
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And then there's the bike rack mounted behind. I wonder if those ever fell off (onto someone).
Nope, bike rack did just fine.

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Old 02-05-2015, 03:30 PM   #88
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This is a perfect example of how people do not pay attention to the full story. Yes, the Sorento can "pull" 5,000 pounds. But it can only "carry" (payload) 1,250 pounds. Simple calcs:

Driver (adult): 180 lbs
Passenger (adult): 140 lbs
Passenger (child): 100 lbs
Passenger (child): 100 lbs
Two kayaks plus rack weight: 150 lbs
Some average luggage/bags in the back: 200 lbs
Minimum tongue weight for dry weight of 4300 lbs: 430 lbs
Add in a weight distributing hitch (50 lbs), propane (37 lbs), battery (50 lbs), etc: 120 lbs tongue weight
Let's assume another 100 lbs of tongue weight from loading the camper up

Minimum "payload" weight: 1,520 versus 1,250 rating.

As the kids grow, more stuff is packed, etc....the situation gets even worse.

How a cop/highway patrol officer could not pull over a Kia Sorento towing this giant travel trailer is beyond me. I would pull a pair of jet skis with a Kia.

And then there's the bike rack mounted behind. I wonder if those ever fell off (onto someone).
Cops don't pull overweight vehicles unless they are equipped with portable scales which most aren't. Stating sticker weights on the ticket of the tw and/or the trailer doesn't hold up in court
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:05 PM   #89
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The first time we shopped for a travel trailer we went to Lazy Days in tampa florida. The salesman would not show us anything until we provided info on our tow vehicle.
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:57 PM   #90
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Am I 'over weight'? Yep, (at least by the sticker specs) and as long as the wife wants 'it' to go with us and I can still close the front door.... stuff is going inside the camper.

The truck can 'pull it' fine and I am not squatting....
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