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Old 10-13-2016, 09:17 AM   #21
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Wow, some great advice from all of you. Luckily we are not in a hurry so have plenty of time to look. We may even buy gently used if we can find one we really like so someone else would have taken care of the warranty issues and save several thousand dollars.
The RV show idea is great, we bought our Roo from a dealer at the Chicago show.
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Old 10-13-2016, 09:42 AM   #22
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We have a 2014 Avenger 28rks.This floor plan describes what you are looking for. We bought this for the two of us with room for guests or grandkids.
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Old 10-13-2016, 10:04 AM   #23
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I'm at 8200 lbs 50 amp 2 AC's and well stocked including 3 cast iron pans. Plus I always keep 5 gal in the black water tank. Although I can't swear it was in there while on scales, that's only 40 lbs difference. That why I suggested it.
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:34 PM   #24
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Man, am I confused. I know what i want, but there is so much to choose from. I was hoping someone could at least steer me in the right direction
BTW, this isn't happening until next year at the earliest. We just bought our rockwood Roo last May, and DH will hit the roof if I talk about buying another already. But I thought I could at least start looking.

We have an low mileage Excursion (tow capacity 9200 lb) that we love so definitely TT vs 5er. I'd like to stay with GVWR of around 7500-8000 lbs so we are comfortable pulling through mountains. It's just the two of us, so only need one bed with a pullout couch for the occasional guest. I'd like two recliners, a couch, lots of floor space and storage space, so at least one big slide, island kitchen (hopefully) and free standing kitchen table. Outdoor kitchen isn't a must. Don't need a tub.

We haven't had a bit of trouble with our Roo, so we are spoiled and would rather stay away from the "value" line of TT, if there is such a thing. Oh, and this most likely will be our retirement TT (she says now) so I would like to be very happy with it.

I've probably forgotten other must-haves.

Any suggestions on what line to start looking at?
Check out the Coachmen APEX Ultra Light with AZDEL! Awesome product for construction!
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Sounds like you just described a new 272rl.
We love ours.
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Old 01-01-2017, 06:52 AM   #26
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Check out the Coachmen APEX Ultra Light with AZDEL! Awesome product for construction!
Although Azdel is better, its not a miracle material by any sense of the word for a laminated wall. It's still the same adhesive used and the same lamination procedure. The Azdel is only used for the outer substrate layer behind the Filon, between it and the foam. You still have Luan plywood for the inner panel that the wall covering is applied to. Introduce water into the assembly and you can still get delam from the Azdel releasing from the foam, or the luan releasing from the foam, or the Filon releasing from the Azdel. Granted the Azdel will not delaminate itself, like the plys in Luan plywood can when it gets wet, but it does not really matter because if you get water in there, something else will come apart. To me its more of a marketing gimmick than anything and they can use the "green" claim in advertising as its a recycled product. Some manufacturers, Jayco is one, Heartland is another, used Azdel for awhile and went back to Luan. The claim is the Luan plywood takes to the adhesives used better than the Azdel as its more porous.
The use of Azdel would not sway me one way or the other on a laminated trailer.
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Check out the Coachmen APEX Ultra Light with AZDEL! Awesome product for construction!
What you described as floor plan is almost identical to a Primetime Avenger 28rks. Have 2014 model,exactly what we were looking for.
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If it's just the two of you most of the time, We bought a "couples trailer"
that we love. We looked for over a year for something we liked. Take a look at the V-Lite 30WIKSS. Three slides, huge forward bathroom with two sinks...
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Although Azdel is better, its not a miracle material by any sense of the word for a laminated wall. It's still the same adhesive used and the same lamination procedure. The Azdel is only used for the outer substrate layer behind the Filon, between it and the foam. You still have Luan plywood for the inner panel that the wall covering is applied to. Introduce water into the assembly and you can still get delam from the Azdel releasing from the foam, or the luan releasing from the foam, or the Filon releasing from the Azdel. Granted the Azdel will not delaminate itself, like the plys in Luan plywood can when it gets wet, but it does not really matter because if you get water in there, something else will come apart. To me its more of a marketing gimmick than anything and they can use the "green" claim in advertising as its a recycled product. Some manufacturers, Jayco is one, Heartland is another, used Azdel for awhile and went back to Luan. The claim is the Luan plywood takes to the adhesives used better than the Azdel as its more porous.
The use of Azdel would not sway me one way or the other on a laminated trailer.
Very interesting and informative post! Thanks for sharing your experience in knowing how these RVs are constructed Mr Havercamp!
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What you described as floor plan is almost identical to a Primetime Avenger 28rks. Have 2014 model,exactly what we were looking for.
Yes this is the floor plan that seems to be a great RV for only me and DW!
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