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Old 03-12-2012, 10:37 PM   #1
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Nutz!

Itís not my fault. I think it must have been a conspiracy. My wife and I left our house this morning to check out a couple of campgrounds that were 90 miles away. As we neared the area of the campgrounds, an RV dealership drew us in. Iíve been wanting to look at the quality of Silverbacks by Cedar Creek and although the dealership didnít have the floor plan I was interested in, they had one that was close. I was fairly impressed with the features, and the fit and finish but I knew Silverbacks were priced higher than what I wanted to pay for a fifth wheel.

To make a long story short, after we checked out the two campgrounds, ate lunch in Cape Girardeau, made three separate trips to the dealership, and a telephone conversation with the factory representative, we signed the papers for a 29 RL just before closing time at the dealership. Our Silverback is an almost completed unit at the Cedar Creek factory so it should be here in just a couple of weeks.

I donít know how this happened but I suspect there were drugs in the free coffee at the dealership. And I guess Iíll have to change my avatar too. NUTZ!
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:47 PM   #2
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GRATZ!!!!!!

Best of luck and much happiness with your new rig!

I bet you just can't wait to start ripping it apart; moding it; and making it "yours."
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:29 AM   #3
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Thanks Herk. I get this very expensive itch every five years and this time that itch needed scratching while I was at a RV dealership. Normally I can resist these urges but this fifth wheel had almost everything I was looking for with one exception, length. I was hoping to stay with a fifth wheel that was 30 feet in length or less, but that length isn't popular anymore. Our new Silverback is 34 feet long. For some reason, fifth wheels seem to be getting longer and heavier each year.
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I see you have a Honda 2000 in your signature. Do you think it will pull your new silverback.
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Let me know how your F250 handles it.

Please post your weights loaded for camping (pin, axles, etc) when you get a chance at the scales.

I REALLY don't want to buy a new truck when (not if) I get a larger unit like yours.
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Let me know how your F250 handles it.

Please post your weights loaded for camping (pin, axles, etc) when you get a chance at the scales.

I REALLY don't want to buy a new truck when (not if) I get a larger unit like yours.
It might be a bit before I get around to a weigh scale. Once we get the Silverback we will be heading to the Rockies.

My truck handles our current Wildcat without breaking a sweat and that statement includes our trip through the Rockies. My very first tow of our Wildcat with our 2010 Ford was 700 miles south to Gulf Shores, Alabama (a flat land drive) and the truck handled so well I could barely tell I was towing a trailer. Last year as a test I turned my brake controller down to 1.0 (no trailer braking) and stopped the trailer using only the truck brakes. While I felt the trailer give an initial push when I applied the brakes from a speed of 50 MPH, the truck stopped our rig with no problem at all.

The axle dry weight of our new Silverback is actually less than that of our current Wildcat, the pin weight is just 100 pounds heavier, and the UVW on the Silverback is just slightly higher, so I really donít anticipate any problems towing. What I do anticipate is a reduction in my miles per gallon. The front cap of the Silverback has more surface area than the Wildcat.

The Silverbackís GVWR is 1800 pounds higher than our Wildcat, but since we will be carrying the same gear that we always carry, we wonít be anywhere near the GVWR of the Silverback. Our truck has a fifth wheel tow rating of 15,300 pounds so we should be thousands of pounds under that number.

If it turns out Iím wrong, I guess there will be a new dually in our future, but I doubt it.
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I see you have a Honda 2000 in your signature. Do you think it will pull your new silverback.
LOL, my dealer told me they have a fifth wheel hitch that will fit on the trunk and while I thought it might be a bit lacking in horsepower and torque, my dealer assured I have more than enough vehicle for it.
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LOL, my dealer told me they have a fifth wheel hitch that will fit on the trunk and while I thought it might be a bit lacking in horsepower and torque, my dealer assured I have more than enough vehicle for it.
OMG funny! Had a dealer at the Philly Expo show last week try the same line on me! He had a 13,000 pound "dry weight" 5th wheel camper that he assured me was 3/4 ton towable. After questioning, he finally admitted "I would most likely be happier towing it with something bigger."
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Congratulations on the new camper!

Your experience does however, reinforce why I should never stop and 'just look' at the dealer.

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Oakman, congratulations on the new Silverback!

Please let me know what kind of coffee that was. We'll serve it at the FROG Rally.
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