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Old 02-20-2015, 09:48 AM   #1
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Same camper 10 different names?

So, I am looking at small campers that have a gueen/full sized bed and bunks. It looks like Forest River has amost the same 21ft camper under 10 different brands/names.

Wildwood X lite 195BH
Salem Cruiselite 195BH
Cherokee Wolf Pup 16BHS

Palomino
Canyon Cat 170BC
Palomini 177BH

KZ Spree
Escape E19BH
Sportsman 19BH

Coachman
Clipper 17BH
Viking 17BH
Apex 185BH

I did notice that some are 6" wider then others but why have so many brands selling almost the same camper? Why not consolidate brands and then offer options?

The whole things just sounds fishy to me...almost like instead of fixing QC issues with a brand, Forest river just makes a new brand and hopes that people are not researching. Please tell me I am wrong because I like the camper layout.
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Old 02-20-2015, 10:01 AM   #3
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So, I am looking at small campers that have a gueen/full sized bed and bunks. It looks like Forest River has amost the same 21ft camper under 10 different brands/names.

Wildwood X lite 195BH
Salem Cruiselite 195BH
Cherokee Wolf Pup 16BHS

Palomino
Canyon Cat 170BC
Palomini 177BH

KZ Spree
Escape E19BH
Sportsman 19BH

Coachman
Clipper 17BH
Viking 17BH
Apex 185BH

I did notice that some are 6" wider then others but why have so many brands selling almost the same camper? Why not consolidate brands and then offer options?

The whole things just sounds fishy to me...almost like instead of fixing QC issues with a brand, Forest river just makes a new brand and hopes that people are not researching. Please tell me I am wrong because I like the camper layout.
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Old 02-20-2015, 10:10 AM   #4
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So, I am looking at small campers that have a gueen/full sized bed and bunks. It looks like Forest River has amost the same 21ft camper under 10 different brands/names.

Wildwood X lite 195BH
Salem Cruiselite 195BH
Cherokee Wolf Pup 16BHS

Palomino
Canyon Cat 170BC
Palomini 177BH

KZ Spree
Escape E19BH
Sportsman 19BH

Coachman
Clipper 17BH
Viking 17BH
Apex 185BH

I did notice that some are 6" wider then others but why have so many brands selling almost the same camper? Why not consolidate brands and then offer options?

The whole things just sounds fishy to me...almost like instead of fixing QC issues with a brand, Forest river just makes a new brand and hopes that people are not researching. Please tell me I am wrong because I like the camper layout.
OK, let say as a first-time poster to this forum with a pot-stirring topic that you are not trolling and have a legitimate question here. First, your list includes campers that are not manufactured by Forest River. Next, Forest River does in fact have sister lines like Salem and Wildwood, Roo and Shamrock, etc. that have different finishes. Parallel this to a Chevy truck and a GM truck. Next, the same floorplan will "step up" across lines because buyers like the floorplan but also have different thresholds for construction. So, you can find the same floorplan in different size boxes as you noted, but then there is different construction such as the basics of material used - composite vs sided walls for instance, composite or trussed roof, enclosed underbelly or open, and so-on. Parallel this as jumping up to a Cadillac from a Chevy. One manufacturer has lines to fit most every taste and price point. Further, realize Forest River has bought a number of formerly independent manufacturers who were in competition with Forest River so they produced comparable offerings as well. Now they are all under one roof, but factories still produce their own things (think able GM worldwide, or better yet the diversity of Ford worldwide). They are culling down slowly based on becoming more unitized but more so by what sales find successful.
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In my research for both TT and now 5th wheels I have found floor plans that are the same in just about every manufacturer I've looked at. It doesn't have anything to do with "Forest River" or thier quality. It has to do with what sells. Rest assured if Company A develops a "hot" floorplan then the industry will follow suit pretty quick. Plus you have brand loyalty to consider and even though a lot of brands fall under the FR umbrella people still want "thier brand".
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Geotext1,

Thank you for the info. It makes sense that FR bought out competitors. I was thinking FR kept changing names to avoid QC issues, like how GMC changed the Calivier > Cobalt > Cruze ect.

It is honestly had to research the differences in the campers with the way FR has their site laided out. It would be nice to compare across the lines to see the differences between a Chevy and Cadillac. With GMC you knew what you get with each brand. Chevy = everymans car, Buick/Olds = retirement car, Cady = white collar, bunt in the end, it was they are same pig with different lipstick. With campers I don't have the brand recognition.

It would be nice to have a way of checking boxes to narrow down the list or compare across lines.

Sorry about throwing in Thor campers in with FR they look almost he same as FR. I started going thru Thor's website and they also have multiple campers with the same layout.
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Does any of the brands not use the quick crimp connectors?

I have been dealing with those things doing bad on my popup and want to avoid if possible. I live next to the Chesapeake Bay, so the constant humidity corrodes the bare wire very quickly.
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Does any of the brands not use the quick crimp connectors?

I have been dealing with those things doing bad on my popup and want to avoid if possible. I live next to the Chesapeake Bay, so the constant humidity corrodes the bare wire very quickly.
You did all this research with models did you call the manufacture? How would i or someone else know if they use "quick crimp connectors"
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Connectors in what application? 12V lighting?
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Does any of the brands not use the quick crimp connectors?

I have been dealing with those things doing bad on my popup and want to avoid if possible. I live next to the Chesapeake Bay, so the constant humidity corrodes the bare wire very quickly.
I have yet to see a single RV manufacturer who does not use quick crimp connectors. Some do a better job than others. I personally don't sweat anything electrical because I can fix it myself and normally replace a standard insulated crimp with a shrinkwrap insulated one since I live on the Delaware River. I was actually surprised with my new Forest River because they actually used spray corrosion inhibitor on every external crimp!
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