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Old 05-07-2016, 05:32 PM   #11
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If you looking at the Montana line you need to stay away from the plain Montana because it real heavy 5er and some huge pin weights. The Montana High Country Country is one step down from the Montana and one step up from the Cougar but has lighter pin weights.
I would also stay away from dark color caps not matter what the brand unless they are painted, they are having problems with fading and chalking.
I would read the forums about that model and see what problems others are having. The small stuff is not a problem but lot issues bigger issues is a problem.

Yeah Looking at the Montana HC, not regular Montana. It is just the Wife and I so don't need anything too long or heavy/fancy I like the Cougar 333mks just need to see if ppl are having luck with them


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Old 05-07-2016, 05:35 PM   #12
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I have a Cougar and love it. Not the type of shower you want in the 303RLS. The only reason mentioned is we found zero at the PDI (dealer prep maybe) and have only had 1 minor problem that Atwood sent a tech out to a CG to fix. Have pulled it over 2000 miles and used about 40 nights so far. The fireplace did the job until temps dropped below 40 then we used the furnace. The polar pkg is advertised to zero but I never intend to find out. Never gets that cold here and we winter in FL.
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Old 05-07-2016, 05:51 PM   #13
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Just looked at the Montana's and loved the front kitchen model. I'm just not a big fan of Montana quality. Grand Design is still my first choice when time to replace my current Rockwood fifth wheel.


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Silverbacks from Cedarcreek are really awesome trailers you might want to consider looking at a two or three-year-old silverback the new models have got the fridge that will open with the slides closed you might want to consider that most of them will be a round 30 to 40,000
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I have a Cougar and love it. Not the type of shower you want in the 303RLS. The only reason mentioned is we found zero at the PDI (dealer prep maybe) and have only had 1 minor problem that Atwood sent a tech out to a CG to fix. Have pulled it over 2000 miles and used about 40 nights so far. The fireplace did the job until temps dropped below 40 then we used the furnace. The polar pkg is advertised to zero but I never intend to find out. Never gets that cold here and we winter in FL.

Good to know bc I am seriously looking at the 333mks, we saw it at a show and love the layout


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Old 05-07-2016, 07:37 PM   #16
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Silverbacks from Cedarcreek are really awesome trailers you might want to consider looking at a two or three-year-old silverback the new models have got the fridge that will open with the slides closed you might want to consider that most of them will be a round 30 to 40,000

Slightly over my budget and they are fairly heavy I am trying to stay under 12,000 and 2200 Pin weight just so I have a good margin or safety


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Just looked at the Montana's and loved the front kitchen model. I'm just not a big fan of Montana quality. Grand Design is still my first choice when time to replace my current Rockwood fifth wheel.


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I think the front kitchen was unique but putting all the weight forward right over the pin would cause me a truck upgrade again. I have the front living room model and like it but it's 39.5 foot long which does cause problems with side winds. I wish I stayed in the 33 to 36 foot range and not full 13.6 profile, just to big of sail behind for 143.5 " wheelbase SRW F350. I'm had on the CAT scale a couple of times and within specs but that doesn't always tell the entire story.

I had a Cougar 28SGS and really like it and probably should keep that one and never had one single problem with it...
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Old 05-08-2016, 01:04 AM   #18
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I think the front kitchen was unique but putting all the weight forward right over the pin would cause me a truck upgrade again. I have the front living room model and like it but it's 39.5 foot long which does cause problems with side winds. I wish I stayed in the 33 to 36 foot range and not full 13.6 profile, just to big of sail behind for 143.5 " wheelbase SRW F350. I'm had on the CAT scale a couple of times and within specs but that doesn't always tell the entire story.

I had a Cougar 28SGS and really like it and probably should keep that one and never had one single problem with it...

Yeah I am trying to really stay in the following Zone any bigger just creates issues and since it is just the Future Wife and I, do not need a lot of space.

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No longer then 33.6 Feet
No Heavier then 12,000#'s
Pin no more than 2200#'s

When I find one that meets our needs in this range, I will be happy also looking at used 2013-2016

Plan on running Anderson 5th Wheel Hitch when I get one, as I have Factory Ford 5th wheel/Gooseneck setup


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I won't go back to FR, but we haven't had our new Keystone Montana long enough to say it's any better than the Wildcat. We know they all have teething problems. Hopefully, the 13 things we identified and fixed during our PDI will be all that's wrong LOL.
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