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10-04-2014, 08:28 PM
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Slider hitch needed?
We are about to get a new fifth wheel. The salesman and the brochure literature claim that it's not needed due to the front cap design that is made for short beds. Do I need one or not? Anyone have a fifth wheel with the cap that claims "short bed" friendly and tow without a slider?
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10-04-2014, 08:34 PM
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Which make and Model?
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10-04-2014, 08:35 PM
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Trailer is SOB
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10-04-2014, 08:41 PM
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I tow a sabre with a sb f250 with the original companion 5th wheel hitch, no slider needed yet.
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10-04-2014, 08:45 PM
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I was advised I may never need a slider, however I elected to install one. I would much rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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10-04-2014, 08:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnabbwr
I was advised I may never need a slider, however I elected to install one. I would much rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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That was my thought as well. But, if I never need it why pay the extra $$?
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10-04-2014, 08:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnoliaTom
That was my thought as well. But, if I never need it why pay the extra $$?
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I figured if I never needed it great, however if I ever got into a situation whether it was due to terrain, severe backing angle or anything which might cause a severe angle I would have the ability to prevent any damage to my 5th wheel and truck. Just my way of thinking.
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10-04-2014, 09:25 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Crew
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This my question about a slider. I have a 2014 GMC 2500 with a 6'6" box and can jack it to 88 degrees with my Wildcat 327ck. But my last trip to our cottage I was pulling uphill and turning onto the road, the 5er corner touched and pushed the corner into the front edge of the box. It's a small wrinkle on the top of the box and the tonneau covers it. It was caused because of the terrain but something to think about. 
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10-04-2014, 09:49 PM
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I just traded my short bed 3/4 ton for a long bed 1 ton last month. I used my B&W Companion slider once this year. It was worth every penny. To each his own though.
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10-04-2014, 10:30 PM
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We have a new Sabre 33CKTS and I put a slider in my Ram with the 6'6" box. Haven't used it yet but have come close to the cab a couple of times. It wasn't that much extra so I have it if I need it.
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10-05-2014, 07:32 AM
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I have a V-Cross and have a slider hitch. Have never used the slider but someday if I upgrade, maybe I will.
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10-05-2014, 08:01 AM
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There are many threads on this where this has been discussed. My experience after talking to people with at least a 6'6" bed they never use their slider or needed one. I don't have one and never needed one with my FF TW combination. Not only the cost of a sliders is a consideration but you do a times get a clunking sound when you start and stop when you have a slider. But if you trailer has cut corners and you have a 6'6" bed you will never need it.
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10-05-2014, 03:02 PM
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If you are towing a bumper pull you could not get 90 degrees and yet people have somehow survived to camp another day... 
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10-05-2014, 03:07 PM
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I think the rule is...
Half the width of the tailer+4 inches distance from cab.
I didn't have a slide...first trip out got the cab. I have really only needed it once since. Worth the money to me.
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10-05-2014, 03:17 PM
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I am confused, my slider hitch is automatic and slides back on every turn I make,it's more than a 90° turn into my driveway since I have to swing it into the other lane, it paid for itself first trip imo.
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10-05-2014, 03:22 PM
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Forgot to put aren't they all automatic?
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10-05-2014, 03:42 PM
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No they are not all automatic. There is a manual slider which I have in my 2014 Ram 2500. We have a Chaparral 5er with the front cap designed for short bed trucks. To date have never used the slider but it is good to have it just in case.
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10-05-2014, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by themounties
Forgot to put aren't they all automatic?
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No they're not. I had a Pullrite Superglide in a previous TV (F350 SB)/5th wheel. They are not cheap, but they are fully automatic and move the hitch to the rear of the truck bed when the truck and trailer are not in a straight line. Once the truck and trailer return to a straight line, the hitch moves forward toward the cab.
The problem with non-automatic sliders is that when you need them the most you're probably in a high stress situation already and are more likely to forget to activate the slide. I honestly don't know if my Pullrite ever prevented damage because it always works every time. That peace of mind was worth the cost to me. IMO, you invest $100K +/- in the truck and trailer, so $2k for the hitch is cheap.
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10-05-2014, 06:50 PM
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Ok good to know there not all automatic, that's what I have pulrite superglide and wouldn't be without
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10-05-2014, 06:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wbdavey
so $2k for the hitch is cheap.
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I bought my superglide off craiglist for 500 , it included everything except the bolts and it looked almost brand new, seems their are lots of superglides in my area for sale between 500 and 750.oo
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