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Old 01-18-2012, 06:12 PM   #21
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One thing to remember, too much truck is better than not enough. People tend to under truck what they are towing by the time all the gear and people are loaded.

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Old 01-18-2012, 06:14 PM   #22
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How fast do you need to climb these hills and how far are you going? You can climb at 90 if you buy enough motor and all the chips, exhaust, & other stuff. Our tow vehicle is my driver. We have a 30' 5th wheel that we towed with a 1/2 ton Ram from SD to TN and back and I saw some big hills. It wasn't important to me to pass people going up hills though. 10.5 mpg with gas was good too.

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Old 01-18-2012, 06:14 PM   #23
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X4 I love my 2009 Tundra. Its like a 5/8 ton. Good towing capacity and ok payload. Alot of power on the hills and we find the interior very comfy. Good luck in your search!!
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:40 PM   #24
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Aside from towing ability, consider the vehicle braking ability. Pretty important I think. Most 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks have larger brakes than a 1/2 ton. The Toyota Tundra which I mentioned previously has impressive size 4 wheel disc brakes. I don't have the specs handy but when your are looking for a tow vehicle you should consider pulling and stopping abilities.

Good luck and have fun shopping. Another thing that Toyota hooked me with was 0% interest when I financed it with them.

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Old 01-18-2012, 07:19 PM   #25
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IMHO Diesel is the only TV for me. We have a 2000 Ford Expedition XLT 4.6 and it pulls our camper fairly well until you hit the hills.

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Old 01-19-2012, 01:47 PM   #26
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I will agree that a 3/4 truck will tow better, but if you have to use your truck as a daily driver, that is when the 1/2 will really shine. It will ride better, not rattle and spew out black smoke, and is a lot sportier looking and handling truck.
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Old 01-19-2012, 04:21 PM   #27
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If you are going to rplace your TV ask yourself, "Am I going to replace this trailer in the future (within the lifespan of the TV) with a heavier trailer?"

If so, you may be better off buy a more substantial TV. Don't buy twice, its a lot more expensive.

Beyond that you want to leave yourself some cushion on tow capacity. I don't care what kind of engine you have it is going to be taxed going uphill with a heavy trailer.

Right now you are borderline on going diesel. You could stick with a 1/2 ton and a Tundra is good to 10K, though I don't remember what the GCWR is on the Tundra. On some of those 1/2 tons, with all the people and gear loaded you might be pretty darn close to the GCWR.

I think most 3/4 tons are rated in excess of 20K GCWR, and even with the gas engines capable of tugging 15K. I had trouble with the brake controller on my used 3/4 ton TV and did not realize due to the capacity of the truck (after I fixed it the response was much better though).

You would like the diesel better, but I think if you are not towing a lot a gas powerplant would probably save you cash.

I do know pulling my 8K+ TT behind Duramax Diesel, the cruise control has little trouble maintaining speed up most hills (haven't tried mountains yet). The ScanGauge show the diesel pumps are getting a workout, but that 6-speed Allison gets warm only on 98F+ days. When I was pulling my old 5K trailer behind my V6 Tacoma up some steep hills, cruise could not handle it, and I had the accelerator nearly to floor to maintain 50+ MPH.

I will also add that when I had the trailer loaded over 10K the Duramax still did just fine, held highway speeds on cruise without assist, and temps remained normal.

I think you can get by with a 1/2 ton, but that 3/4 ton is going to have a better cushion...
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Old 01-19-2012, 04:51 PM   #28
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A couple of other thoughts.

1) How often do you tow and how far? If infrequent and/or short distances, then maybe a good 1/2 ton suits you better. There is an every day penalty in ride, handling, and fuel economy with a 3/4 ton.

2) 1/2 ton vs 3/4 ton also depends on the brand you buy. There are only a couple of 1/2 ton brands that will deal with that much weight. Consider torque delivery; and importantly, the RPM at which it is delivered.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:41 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by CamperFan View Post
I will agree that a 3/4 truck will tow better, but if you have to use your truck as a daily driver, that is when the 1/2 will really shine. It will ride better, not rattle and spew out black smoke, and is a lot sportier looking and handling truck.
You obviously have not been in the new diesels. My 2011 F-250 is almost as quiet as a gasser, is easily as comfortable, does not ride badly enough to make a difference, and the only black smoke comes from a chipped engine (usually). These new ones don't smell like diesel anymore, sound like them, or just about anything like the older ones. Mine is a daily driver and I'm getting between 19 - 20 mpg. On the highway I get close to 23 mpg. Towing (only once so far, and not far, so this number is still not fully tested), I get 11.5 mpg.
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:27 PM   #30
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IMHO, get the 3/4 ton as you will NEVER get buyers remorse.
With the 1/2 ton you most likely will at some point.


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