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Old 01-21-2012, 08:41 AM   #41
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Doesn't the Ford 3/4 ton 4X4 have a solid front axle? If so, no way it rides or handles as well as an independent front end. That's where GM and Dodge have an advantage. I believe their HD trucks have independent front suspension on the 4X4?

Heavier springs have to equal a rougher ride . . .
Dodge HD trucks have a SFA like the Ford, just a different type of control arm setup. Fords use Radius arms and Dodges use a 4 link like the Jeeps. I will say that I have driven a number of 08 and newer Ford Superduties and they ride like a car compared to the bone jarring ride in our 08 Megacab Dodge, there are times the DW is in tears (she has a bad back) from getting beat around in that truck, enough so it is getting a Carli suspension this year.
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Old 01-21-2012, 10:40 AM   #42
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This is what the new 2011 and up Fords are using. Mine is way smoother than my '08 and even more so than my '03.

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4x2
Independent twin I-beam (narrow front track) with coil springs, shock absorbers, stabilizer bar (F-250/350);
Mono beam (wide front track) with coil springs, shock absorbers, stabilizer bar (F-450)
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Mono beam (narrow front track) with coil springs, shock absorbers, stabilizer bar (F-250/350);
Mono beam (wide front track) with coil springs, shock absorbers, stabilizer bar (F-450)
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Live axle with leaf springs, staggered shock absorbers and stabilizer bar;
stabilizer bar standard on DRW models and available with camper package and snowplow package on
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Live axle with leaf springs, staggered shock absorbers and stabilizer bar;
stabilizer bar standard on DRW models and available with camper package and snowplow package on
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:13 PM   #43
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I have never heard anyone towing that said, "I wish I got a smaller truck"
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:54 PM   #44
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BIGGER IS BETTER!

We have a 2007 Ford F150 4X4, 3.73 axle, gas... what we could afford at the time and knew we were not going to be towing a really big trailer. Is out daily driver...LOVE IT!!

But I DO have a dream truck.. Ford F250 diesel with the works! But its only a dream... can't see purchasing a 60k truck to pull a 20k trailer :O
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:07 PM   #45
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BIGGER IS BETTER!

We have a 2007 Ford F150 4X4, 3.73 axle, gas... what we could afford at the time and knew we were not going to be towing a really big trailer. Is out daily driver...LOVE IT!!

But I DO have a dream truck.. Ford F250 diesel with the works! But its only a dream... can't see purchasing a 60k truck to pull a 20k trailer :O
Funny! I have the same dream. I think the Ecoboost will meet my needs though.
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:20 PM   #46
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I have never heard anyone towing that said, "I wish I got a smaller truck"

Funny you should say that as we have been looking at the EcoBoost as one of our options should we ever get rid of the Dodge, given a properly equipped F150 EB has a higher payload and tow rating and not by a small margin over our 3/4 ton Megacab with 3:73's and rides better plus better mileage as a bonus. No that is not a misprint MC payload 2310 vs 2600 or so for the EB, Max tow 8350 mc vs 11300 for the EB F150. Now not all Dodges are rated so poorly but Dodge clearly does not think very highly of the Megacabs abilities and the payload is even lower for the diesels at abt 1580lbs (these numbers are for an 08, the 2011 are slightly better as the diesel has a payload of 2024lbs and a max tow of 14250 not sure how that works given a 5ver that weight and a 15% pin would already be over the max payload by 50 lbs )all for the sake of getting your guts hammered out on the road.

So again I don't see the EB as a downsize in some cases.
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:49 PM   #47
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Funny you should say that as we have been looking at the EcoBoost as one of our options should we ever get rid of the Dodge, given a properly equipped F150 EB has a higher payload and tow rating and not by a small margin over our 3/4 ton Megacab with 3:73's and rides better plus better mileage as a bonus. No that is not a misprint MC payload 2310 vs 2600 or so for the EB, Max tow 8350 mc vs 11300 for the EB F150. Now not all Dodges are rated so poorly but Dodge clearly does not think very highly of the Megacabs abilities and the payload is even lower for the diesels at abt 1580lbs (these numbers are for an 08, the 2011 are slightly better as the diesel has a payload of 2024lbs and a max tow of 14250 not sure how that works given a 5ver that weight and a 15% pin would already be over the max payload by 50 lbs )all for the sake of getting your guts hammered out on the road.

So again I don't see the EB as a downsize in some cases.
F150 HD (max payload option) crew cab 2WD is 2300lbs payload. Knock off a couple hundred more for 4X4. They may be closer in payload than you think.

Personally I will keep my 3/4 ton and replace it with another 3/4 ton when the times comes. I prefer having my truck axles out weighing my trailer axles and stronger everything that comes with the 3/4 ton vs. any 1/2 ton.
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:23 PM   #48
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And sometimes it is about what you WANT rather than what you NEED! My '05 F150 was doing fine. Didn't need the new Ecoboost. But there it is in my garage. My niece just bought a diesel F250 to pull her horse trailer. Must be some heavy horses!! But sometimes you "hear the call".
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Just joined and your thread caught my attention. I know it's been a year, but I was wondering what you decided on? For the benefit of others who may read this thread, I'll give a brief on my story.

In 2006, my husband and I decided to start looking at campers. At that time, we were driving a 1/2 ton Chevy. There wasn't much out there that this truck could pull. So, we went BIG. We got the 2008 F-450! Now we could really look! Of course, when you can pull anything, you look at the REALLY nice campers. We're not retired yet, so we won't be living in our camper, and it didn't make sense to go that big yet. Meanwhile, we're driving this big truck around and the gas mileage was terrible! One day, after putting $100 in the gas tank and getting less than 3/4 full, we decided to rethink things. We were still researching the "perfect" camper for us, and started looking at the ultra lights. At the same time, I started researching the newer 1/2 ton trucks.

I really liked the look of the F150 EcoBoost, but I just couldn't believe that it could really pull as much as it said. I went to my local dealership where I bought the 450, and starting asking questions. Also, I always research on the internet. They all said the truck could do what it claimed. So, with a truck that can pull 11,300 lbs. and new ultra light trailers we should be able to find what we want right? RIGHT! We did and we love it! We have a 33 ft. trailer that weighs about 6500 dry. With our gear loaded, it probably weights in at about 8,000 lbs. (although we've never weighed it). We travel from VA to OH over the Allegheny mountains in PA and have had no problems! Plus, we get to drive a nice truck around town and get good gas mileage!

To anyone who finds themselves in your similar situation, I highly recommend a Ford F-150 EcoBoost with an Ultra Light Trailer. There are so many trailers to choose from now, you're sure to find one you like and that your Ford can pull!
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I pull a Sterling 30RL fifth wheel with an empty weight of 8,900. I scaled it loaded with the truck and I was under the factory max load specs. I have a F 150 Platinum Crew with the heavy duty towing package. It has a 6.2 ltr. truck engine with a 3.73 rear end. I have had a F 350 and F 250 previously. This does the job just as well and has a better ride. I went over 4 mountain passes last summer. Unless you order a diesel engine, you won't get any better performance out of a larger truck. It also has major BIG brakes and other drive train components. etc. If you get a half ton, you need to order the heavy duty towing package. I have also driven across Kansas with a stiff cross wind with no problem. It can pass an 18 wheeler anytime. The new 2015 F150's will have even more towing capacity with their aluminum bodies. There are actually modestly equipped 3/4 ton trucks that have less towing capacities than my F150.
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